Index  | Recent Threads  | Unanswered Threads  | Who's Active  | Guidelines  | Search
 

Quick Go »
No member browsing this thread
Thread Status: Active
Total posts in this thread: 45
Posts: 45   Pages: 5   [ Previous Page | 1 2 3 4 5 | Next Page ]
[ Jump to Last Post ]
Post new Thread
Author
Previous Thread This topic has been viewed 10169 times and has 44 replies Next Thread
PecosRiverM
Veteran Cruncher
The Great State of Texas
Joined: Apr 27, 2007
Post Count: 1053
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: The Influenza Antiviral Drug Search Crunching Chart

I think I need more computers. Humm I wonder if that ole dual core 200mz P-Pro would work. Maybe one of those 386DX 33mz?

Guess I'll just have to run with what I've got (or rent one).
----------------------------------------

[Sep 2, 2009 2:26:42 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
Sekerob
Ace Cruncher
Joined: Jul 24, 2005
Post Count: 20043
Status: Offline
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: The Influenza Antiviral Drug Search Crunching Chart

Imagine being 'just' over gold for longer and having had emerald (1 year) as original target to go for some time later


At least you've reached the first major "milestone"...

The duo has started on FLU yesterday after finishing a run at CEP... going for Ruby, but with 76 CPU days to go it's going to be awfully tight. Set the upload/download to 15 minutes daily as none of the machines like starting of a new flu job that includes a heavy setup combined with the end of job benchmarking-QA and uploading. This strategy has worked quite well in past. Wence the quad is done with CEP, heels over the ditch to get emerald, it will be switched too, but that wont be until probably the 10th... so so tight. Will have to miss out on the next HFCC beta.
----------------------------------------
WCG Global & Research > Make Proposal Help: Start Here!
Please help to make the Forums an enjoyable experience for All!
[Sep 2, 2009 2:45:47 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
robertmiles
Senior Cruncher
US
Joined: Apr 16, 2008
Post Count: 443
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: The Influenza Antiviral Drug Search Crunching Chart

It looks like silver is all I can hope for - not enough air conditioning to handle another desktop and still let me be comfortable. However, I've added a few posts that suggest some new targets, hopefully for phase 1.
----------------------------------------
[Edit 2 times, last edit by robertmiles at Sep 4, 2009 3:22:25 PM]
[Sep 4, 2009 3:18:09 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
Steve WCG
Senior Cruncher
Joined: May 4, 2009
Post Count: 216
Status: Offline
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: The Influenza Antiviral Drug Search Crunching Chart

We all do what we can and your collection of silver bades looks pretty good to me peace
[Sep 4, 2009 6:13:24 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
gb009761
Master Cruncher
Scotland
Joined: Apr 6, 2005
Post Count: 2977
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: The Influenza Antiviral Drug Search Crunching Chart

It looks like silver is all I can hope for


Well, I'm currently 5 days away from Silver, and I'm still striving to reach Gold.

I've got enough WU's buffered to certainly reach Silver, and as we get nearer Target 9 WU's, I'll be increasing my buffer to it's virtual limit - in the hope that it'll get me there...

Thankfully, this project does have a daily restriction, and thus, it won't be affected too much by monster crunchers coming on board and striving for their Sapphire badge...

BTW, does anyone know as to what the daily restriction is?
----------------------------------------

[Sep 4, 2009 6:54:59 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
Steve WCG
Senior Cruncher
Joined: May 4, 2009
Post Count: 216
Status: Offline
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: The Influenza Antiviral Drug Search Crunching Chart

WCG stats show 24,495 WUs per day avg with 27,007 WUs yesterday. Sekerob's charts show a recent uptick so I am gonna guess 25,000 ... maybe someone with better numbers (holla out to the WCG techs in the house?) will chime in.

I have not seen any "no WUs for selected project" messages in my BOINC manager so I guess there are enough to go around for now. If I do start to see those I may increase my buffer so I don't run dry but I should have my emerald by the time the new WUs stop so I the .75 of a day queue I have now should be OK.

Good luck ... don't turn that machine off ... no rebooting, no games ... crunch, crunch, crunch cool
[Sep 4, 2009 8:21:59 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
roundup
Veteran Cruncher
Switzerland
Joined: Jul 25, 2006
Post Count: 831
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: The Influenza Antiviral Drug Search Crunching Chart

Set the upload/download to 15 minutes daily as none of the machines like starting of a new flu job that includes a heavy setup combined with the end of job benchmarking-QA and uploading. This strategy has worked quite well in past.

Hi Sekerob,
this sounds very interesting. However, I do not understand this to the full extent. Here are my questions:
1) How many resources (e.g. CPU-time on a 2,5 GHz system) are used by the "heavy setup"?
2) Why is the effort for the setup lower as soon as you restrict your machines to 15 minutes upload/download per day?
3) Does IADS always perform an "end of job benchmarking-QA" for each WU?
4) Do you have some numbers at hand (e.g. CPU time) for the optimization caused by the restriction to 15 minutes upload/downlad per day?
Greetings and thanks in advance!
[Sep 7, 2009 10:32:32 AM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
Sekerob
Ace Cruncher
Joined: Jul 24, 2005
Post Count: 20043
Status: Offline
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: The Influenza Antiviral Drug Search Crunching Chart

Set the upload/download to 15 minutes daily as none of the machines like starting of a new flu job that includes a heavy setup combined with the end of job benchmarking-QA and uploading. This strategy has worked quite well in past.

Hi Sekerob,
this sounds very interesting. However, I do not understand this to the full extent. Here are my questions:
1) How many resources (e.g. CPU-time on a 2,5 GHz system) are used by the "heavy setup"?
It's not the resources, it's the very high intensity with which a FLU1 job is started [kind of a grid is set up to optimize the FLU jobs efficiency], which takes about 5 minutes. Similarly there's a benchmark at the end. Certainly on all my machines I find upload + startup of a FLU job to dramatically reduce the claim. Somehow networking itself draws allot of housekeeping juice, possibly WIFI amplifying this effect?
2) Why is the effort for the setup lower as soon as you restrict your machines to 15 minutes upload/download per day?
The chance of an upload [any project] and the start of a new FLU1 job is rather small if the connect window is set to just 15 minutes a day. Of course this requires to maintain a buffer of about 1.5 days, else there'd be a chance of idle air crunching.
3) Does IADS always perform an "end of job benchmarking-QA" for each WU?
Yes
4) Do you have some numbers at hand (e.g. CPU time) for the optimization caused by the restriction to 15 minutes upload/download per day?
No numbers, just seen it time and again, ballpark impact probably 25%. Found it on the quad to be even worse than on the duo. It's one of the reasons I think to have read [post by a tech] why FLU1 is not distributed at normal weight, it probably decreasing chance that multiple run simultaneous which has the worst benchmark impact.
Greetings and thanks in advance!

Kind of academic so close to the end, but reason I've not put much focus on this project and let them come at random with other work... Though, I'm still trying for the Ruby medal badge. 70 CPU days required.
----------------------------------------
WCG Global & Research > Make Proposal Help: Start Here!
Please help to make the Forums an enjoyable experience for All!
[Sep 7, 2009 12:32:27 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
roundup
Veteran Cruncher
Switzerland
Joined: Jul 25, 2006
Post Count: 831
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: The Influenza Antiviral Drug Search Crunching Chart

Thanks, Sekerob smile
Indeed very interesting to understand how the project works. I will set up my machines your way after I got my Emerald for CEP.
[Sep 7, 2009 1:42:31 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
gb009761
Master Cruncher
Scotland
Joined: Apr 6, 2005
Post Count: 2977
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: The Influenza Antiviral Drug Search Crunching Chart

Well, as this morning I downloaded a WU from within batch#884, I wouldn't be too surprised if we see the beginning of target 9 (i.e., the last of the currently scheduled targets) being distributed today...
----------------------------------------

[Sep 13, 2009 11:28:03 AM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
Posts: 45   Pages: 5   [ Previous Page | 1 2 3 4 5 | Next Page ]
[ Jump to Last Post ]
Post new Thread