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Re: smilesmile Join "MyOnlineTeam" Today - Chapter 25 smilesmile

I dont know what you all are crying about-I have 2 Gateways 4c running 69-73 and all they do is crunch been doing it for four months another Gateway AMD 6000 dual core i had to change from vista to XP Pro running 71-74 for 6 months and they keep my bedroom cozy


Good to hear you're back Gerald! But I'm with Blizzie on this one. I get real scared if my pc's go over the 65 degree C mark for any extended period of time. If you remember, about 6 months ago, I was complaining that my alienware was putting out about 80 C on the CPU. I took five minutes cleaning my case with compressed air and voila, average CPU temp dropped to a cozy 60!


CPU temps vary by Intel or AMD and the stepping.

For you Q6600 people. If you have a B1 stepping max temp is 60.1 C and if it's G0 it is 70.1. The rest of Intel's C2D are 60.1 C.

AMD.. I'm not so sure.
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...Because of our very low humidity, swamp coolers work great. Low tech but very efficient.

The crapway is running better than it ever has. I'm going to take it up to 100% CPU and see what happens.


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It's air conditioning or nothing here on the 'wet coast'. Swamp coolers have virtually no effect in this area.

As I know very little about EIST (other than it's a good thing for laptops), I found this exerpt.

"Under Microsoft Windows XP, SpeedStep support is built into the power management console under the control panel. In Windows XP a user can regulate the processor's speed indirectly by changing power schemes. The "Home/Office Desk" disables SpeedStep, the "Portable/Laptop" power scheme enables SpeedStep, and the "Max Battery" uses SpeedStep to slow the processor to minimal power levels as the battery weakens" (Wikipedia)

So, as far as I've understood on a desktop machine, you shouldn't have to disable it in the BIOS. Of course, I always stand by the addage..."whatever works".


EIST or Speedstep, "steps" down the multiplier on yuor CPU to conserve enrgy and to lower heat when it isn't needed. When you're just in desktop doing nothing the multiplier drops making a 2400 MHz to a 1600 MHz. When you're gaming, etc it doesn't take effect. To sum up, it helps control heat and power usage.

It messes with overclocking, so I always disable it.
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MyOnlineTeam Daily Statistics for 04/13 - All Members:

Team rank movement report
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Prior New Current
Member name Rank Change Rank Points
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Adywebb 37 -1 38 1,287,152
John Parker 38 +1 37 1,291,153
LemurFox 68 -1 69 599,540
laughing66607 69 +1 68 599,557
dtype 90 -1 91 394,284
johng 91 +1 90 395,997
Hintsala 102 -1 103 300,068
Jockin 103 +1 102 300,253

Points milestones report
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Hintsala reached 300,000 points applause
Jockin reached 300,000 points applause

Runtime milestones report
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nl59056 reached 61 years of runtime applause
Dataman reached 6 years of runtime applause

Results returned milestones report
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sulcata returned their 3,300th result applause

New members report
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No new members found. sad

Retired members report
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No new retired members found. smile

For the week as a team:

Statistics  Total Run Time  Points   Results
Date (y:d:h:m:s) Earned Returned
04/13/2008 0:134:07:51:09 198,749 367
04/12/2008 0:151:11:45:20 221,710 428
04/11/2008 0:153:14:01:10 228,615 415
04/10/2008 0:143:05:33:46 223,630 424
04/09/2008 0:138:07:16:47 216,290 418
04/08/2008 0:154:19:54:55 253,860 495
04/07/2008 0:152:16:05:42 214,503 403


Team Records:
Results Returned: 12/19/2007 2,522
Points: 12/19/2007 379,990
Runtime: 01/25/2006 1:123:00:53:34

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MyOnlineTeam Daily Statistics for 04/13 - Active Members

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Current Points
Active member name Rank Change Points This Period
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marysduby 1 0 18,297,325 32,878
CompuDude 2 0 16,255,848 3,388
nl59056 3 0 14,339,114 2,057
Ploetner 4 0 9,169,703 506
parmesian 5 0 7,520,655 9,156
Esteban69 6 0 7,361,045 7,597
Coingames 7 0 4,451,744 10,088
Graham 8 0 4,180,169 552
cyberwire 9 0 4,173,919 710
Dataman 10 0 3,749,657 39,610
frans6nl 11 0 3,374,171 5,587
PohSoon 12 0 3,023,006 7,537
Fanie 13 0 2,919,274 736
Dave Bell 14 0 2,696,238 5,973
joshuabayer 15 0 2,162,195 586
Blizzie 16 0 2,045,746 14,262
Rasse 17 0 1,841,634 0
Alain Bryden 18 0 1,678,812 512
keithhenry 19 0 1,671,587 3,518
lawrencehardin 20 0 1,605,170 3,171
Neumonic 21 0 1,578,358 0
spikey_richie 22 0 1,543,609 0
siseberg 23 0 1,394,914 851
Wunderwuzzi 24 0 1,335,642 0
John Parker 25 0 1,291,153 8,560
finman 26 0 1,283,320 2,633
txjallen 27 0 1,276,353 1,645
largethunder 28 0 1,235,514 0
sulcata 29 0 1,150,445 4,650
smcclarigan 30 0 1,103,104 0
charlie99 31 0 995,920 0
Johnwoods 32 0 950,242 0
Jonathan Figdor 33 0 937,000 6,491
AStafford 34 0 862,707 433
newtod 35 0 858,652 0
Tomwp 36 0 846,817 0
Arthur256 37 0 735,881 0
Pandas Dad 38 0 646,010 517
Sunny L. Kae 39 0 615,944 2,415
laughing66607 40 0 599,557 809
mlafferty 41 0 550,236 9,918
JerBlock 42 0 537,504 0
wrr 43 0 529,475 2,541
Edward McCoy 44 0 488,447 401
Airwolf_Liu 45 0 434,286 0
johng 46 +1 395,997 2,341
dtype 47 -1 394,284 493
Blueprint 48 0 368,714 0
Hairy4Paws 49 0 358,657 0
John Conrad 50 0 322,525 1,634
Jockin 51 +1 300,253 1,066
Hintsala 52 -1 300,068 525
RetiredPB 53 0 279,072 0
blueKnight 54 0 277,625 0
elpe 55 0 270,428 0
Bon Kuhlman 56 0 265,432 0
barney15c 57 0 241,104 0
Lanscader 58 0 218,084 0
shinob925 59 0 200,128 0
Momentary Lapse of Reason 60 0 193,606 0
mapplebeck 61 0 159,572 467
Calamity 62 0 156,914 0
cknotty 63 0 146,728 0
lenmccart 64 0 144,718 0
jan.fratric 65 0 136,153 0
madambaster 66 0 120,780 1,130
dub4u 67 0 116,532 0
Harry de Swart 68 0 108,981 0
shawnangelo 69 0 104,241 0
Natalino 70 0 90,093 0
platinumbus177 71 0 83,050 0
WoytaZ 72 0 58,806 0
sammercer 73 0 40,736 805


Note: Active members are those who earned points in the prior 30 days.

Top Ten active members returning points today:
01: Dataman - 39,610 points
02: marysduby - 32,878 points
03: Blizzie - 14,262 points
04: Coingames - 10,088 points
05: mlafferty - 9,918 points
06: parmesian - 9,156 points
07: John Parker - 8,560 points
08: Esteban69 - 7,597 points
09: PohSoon - 7,537 points
10: Jonathan Figdor - 6,491 points

Total points returned today: 198,749
Active members returning points today: 40
Average points per member active today: 4968.725
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Points milestones report
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Hintsala reached 300,000 points
Jockin reached 300,000 points

Runtime milestones report
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nl59056 reached 61 years of runtime

Results returned milestones report
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sulcata returned their 3,300th result



What great milestones today. nl59056 ... 61 years of crunching. Older than me. biggrin

Rock on MOT!


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Older than most of us. (We'll have to see what Keith has to say about that).

I see DM browbeat mlafferty into submission, according to the stats.
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EIST or Speedstep, "steps" down the multiplier on yuor CPU to conserve enrgy and to lower heat when it isn't needed. When you're just in desktop doing nothing the multiplier drops making a 2400 MHz to a 1600 MHz. When you're gaming, etc it doesn't take effect. To sum up, it helps control heat and power usage.

It messes with overclocking, so I always disable it.


Let me understand this better with three questions...

Is the extract quoted previously from Wikipedia incorrect about WinXP disabling Speedstep in "Desktop" mode incorrect?
Would CPU-Z show the lower multiplier if no other programs are running? IE: idling
How is overclocking affected when EIST is enabled?
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EIST or Speedstep, "steps" down the multiplier on yuor CPU to conserve enrgy and to lower heat when it isn't needed. When you're just in desktop doing nothing the multiplier drops making a 2400 MHz to a 1600 MHz. When you're gaming, etc it doesn't take effect. To sum up, it helps control heat and power usage.

It messes with overclocking, so I always disable it.


Let me understand this better with three questions...

Is the extract quoted previously from Wikipedia incorrect about WinXP disabling Speedstep in "Desktop" mode incorrect?
Would CPU-Z show the lower multiplier if no other programs are running? IE: idling
How is overclocking affected when EIST is enabled?


1. Yes Wikipedia is true from what I heard. I haven't actually tried it out myself though on a laptop.

2. Yes, CPU-Z does show the lowered mulitplier and it will change accordingly. People always ask why their processor frequency is lower than it's supposed to be; cause of Speedstep.

Enable SpeedStep. Idle in desktop. Then open BOINC. The multi will change.

3. Overclocking and SpeedStep cannot live together in harmony.

3.
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Older than most of us. (We'll have to see what Keith has to say about that).


I'm old but not ancient. Contrary to rumor, I did NOT server in the Roman Senate. wink
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3. Overclocking and SpeedStep cannot live together in harmony.


How true - and another consequence having it speedstep activated for Boinc users is that you will usually end up with a lower benchmark as a consequence - as when it suspends the WU's to run the benchmark, the multiplier will drop because you are no longer running at full throttle and you will bench at a lower speed.
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