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Little Mermaid,

J'ai une passion pour tout ce qui vole depuis enfant. Que ce soit les animaux ou tous types d'aéronefs. Je m'émerveille à chaque fois que j'ai l'occasion de voir un héron à la rivière, et je dis bonjour aux papillons. Et quand j'entends un avion ou un hélicoptère, je ne peux m'empêcher d'essayer de le voir.

Mais si tu adores les montgolfières, en avant pour s'en mettre plein les yeux :

28/07/2017 : Le record du monde de décollage de montgolfières en ligne a été battu à Chambley, dans l'est de la France, avec l'envol simultané de 456 ballons
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I have a passion for everything that flies since child. Be it animals or all types of aircraft. I marvel each time I have the opportunity to see a heron at the river, and say hello to butterflies. And when I hear a plane or a helicopter, I can not help but try to see it.

But if you love hot air balloons, go ahead to get your eyes full:

07/28/2017: The world record balloon take-off in Chambley, in the east of France, has been beaten with the simultaneous takeoff of 456 balloons








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07/28/2017: The world record balloon take-off in Chambley, in the east of France, has been beaten with the simultaneous takeoff of 456 balloons

Wow! cool
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Good morning everyone.
Beautiful Stefada, thanks for sharing. smile
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Thank you, stefada. That video recreated the feeling of standing in that basket being carried over the excavation areas and the scenery in Egypt watching it being colored rosy and golden by the rising sun. Surprising that this poetic trip is filed so deeply and tangibly inside me that it can be felt again with this prosaic video.
We started out from our Nile boat in pitch dark, crossed the Nile in a small boat with a serving under deck of coffee and cake
- the type called sand cake in Denmark wink
Ballooning seems to be best done Xtremely early in the day at that location.
Good Morning Base Campers!
Shop talk
Our July trek could last the entire month in the principle with to peak dates:
July 4 – Independence Day in the USA
July 14 – Bastille Day in France
We could come and go as we please – once, twice, many times, BladeD style
What do you think?

Censorship
My brain has not stood still since.
It is a powerful experience to see Base Campers’ and a Base Camp visitor’s post being deleted and my own being pruned.
As the balloon video recalled wonderful sensations, being censored brought up some bad instances of violation.
To be censored compares to theft, burglary, and attempt of rape.
I tried it all so I know of which I speak. Same thing different shades.
A very profound feeling of anger, humiliation, and sadness.

I have tried my best to get others’ review/judgement on the part of my post that was removed. So far I have not succeeded in getting any American opinion - although a non-specific one - whereas I had a couple from the UK.

My opinion is that things need to be discussed – also when they are unpleasant.
The feelings I described in that post were not pleasant to myself either.
But they are there.
WCG’s opinion is that this should not be discussed here.
WCG owns the place. I’m the guest.
I think I took great care with that particular post, but still it overstepped limits that are, indeed, invisible and foreign to me.

When somebody tried to rape me in my teen years, I took the proverbial long, long shower of my body afterwards, but I also mulled it over for years in my head. Now I have settled for blaming lack of information and communication. Had I know how strong sexual desire can be in young men, I had taken more care, and had he, he might have done so as well. We might even have talked about it before it went that far.
Not knowing enough - ignorance - was what was at fault.
But nobody told me – or him – and information was not easily available.

Because I’m very fond of the people I have met crunching on and off all the way back from 2003, it would break my heart to leave.
WCG, of course, has the right and the power to expel me.
I have decided
I think I did once before
that I’ll take care
I think I always do.
But I still have my own teeth, so please give me kind and gentle warnings. I do have my e-mail listed.
I am prone to mood swings, and I fear dropping through the low point. Again.

After all this is an international place, and we don’t all know all the American ruling rules
- they do change from time to time
especially since many are unmentionable.
I do what I can to keep up – reading news and books, most recently ’Den 2. amerikanske borgerkrig’
– ’The Second American Civil War’
which deals with a polarization that now is far bigger than I imagined and seems far more serious than I imagined, too.
I think I have friends of both observations whom I respect and love for what they are.
Everything is bigger in the USA ... the sceneries, too love struck

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once, twice, many times, BladeD style
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Ballooning seems to be best done Xtremely early in the day at that location.


Little Mermaid,

En fait, même en France, on va faire de la montgolfière plutôt le matin. Pour des raisons de sécurité, et vu le climat en Egypte, j'imagine qu'ils font encore plus attention.

Pendant la journée, le Soleil réchauffe le sol (particulièrement les champs de blé par exemple) ce qui va engendrer un courant ascendant thermique. Les oiseaux migrateurs, les rapaces et les vautours s'en servent pour prendre de l'altitude, tout comme les planeurs et les parapentes.
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In fact, even in France, we will go ballooning rather in the morning. For security reasons, and given the climate in Egypt, I imagine they are paying even more attention.

During the day, the sun warms the soil (especially wheat fields for example) which will generate a thermal updraft. Migratory birds, raptors and vultures use them to gain altitude, as do gliders and paragliders.



Le problème avec une montgolfière, c'est qu'elle ne se dirige pas ! Donc si on rentre dans un thermique, on ne sait pas jusqu'à où on va monter, avec les risques de manque d'oxygène, et le froid, arrivé à une certaine altitude. Et pour ne rien arranger, un thermique est souvent entouré de vents descendant, donc à peine sorti du thermique, on va descendre très rapidement.

Evidemment, c'est lié à la météo, qu'il faut qu'il fasse chaud. Mais comme pour faire de la montgolfière, il faut du beau temps et peu de vent, les conditions idéales pour que se forment les thermiques, on ne prend pas le risque.
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The problem with a balloon is that it does not go (no direction change) ! So if we go into a thermal, we do not know where we go up, with the risk of lack of oxygen, and the cold, arrived at a certain altitude. And to make matters worse, a thermal is often surrounded by downwind, so just out of the thermal, we will go down very quickly.

Obviously, it is related to the weather, it must be hot. But as for ballooning, it takes good weather and little wind, the ideal conditions for the formation of thermals, we do not take the risk.

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You sound so experienced, stefada, have you tried this?
I went deep down in the under-basement of my files and looked up some love pictures I took back in 2003.
I had them intended for my/our website, therefore they are small. I put them in a Facebook album
Memory Lane
There is no timestamp on them, but I would estimate it's 2100 or later in the evening.

We saved on bandwidth at the time, right? biggrin
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Memory Lane

Nice. smile
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Little Mermaid,

Non, je n'ai jamais eu la chance d'essayer la montgolfière.

C'est juste que depuis tout petit, ça me passionne. Mon arrière-grand-mère me disait que j'ai commencé à dire que je voulais être pilote d'avion, je n'avais pas encore cinq ans. Et si j'avais de meilleurs yeux, j'en aurais sûrement fait mon métier. Mais j'ai quand même pris des cours de pilotage (j'ai 12H de vol à mon actif), et passé le Brevet d'Initiation à l'Aéronautique avec mention très bien (C'est très théorique, et devait permettre une grosse réduction pour le suivant, mais même comme ça les cours coûtaient trop cher. L'avion, c'est un loisir pour les riches).

Et puis, j'ai toujours eu des facilités avec la physique, et l'aéronautique ce n'est que ça. Avec en plus, que mon grand frère a fait du parapente pendant quelques années, donc on a forcément discuter de ça pendant des heures, et partagé nos connaissances et nos expériences.

D'ailleurs, tes jolies photos m'ont rappelées un magnifique souvenir que j'ai de lui, un jour où il faisait du woofing (si le mot Français existe, je ne le connais pas).

Nous avons vu qu'un parapente peut utiliser les courants ascendant thermique pour prendre de l'altitude. L'autre méthode, c'est le woofing.
Le principe est très simple : Lorsque le vent rencontre un obstacle (une colline, une falaise, etc), il va devoir le contourner. Ce qui fait une zone où il va être ascendant.
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No, I never had a chance to try the hot air balloon.

It's just that since childhood, I'm passionate about it. My great-grandmother told me that I started saying that I wanted to be an airplane pilot, I was not yet five years old. And if I had better eyes, I would surely have done my job. But I still took flying lessons (I have 12H flight to my credit), and passed the Brevet d'Initiation to Aeronautics with honors (It's very theoretical, and was to allow a big reduction for the next, but even that way the courses were too expensive.The plane is a hobby for the rich).

And then, I always had facilities with the physics, and the aeronautics it is only that. In addition, that my older brother has been paragliding for a few years, so we necessarily discuss it for hours, and shared our knowledge and experiences.

Moreover, your pretty pictures reminded me of a wonderful memory that I have of him, a day when he was woofing (if the word French exists, I do not know him).

We have seen that a paraglider can use thermal updrafts to gain altitude. The other method is woofing.
The principle is very simple: When the wind meets an obstacle (a hill, a cliff, etc.), it will have to work around it. Which makes an area where it will be ascending.



Un jour que je l'avais accompagné à Millau, à Puncho d'Agast (le site principal, avec l'orientation du vent). Je passais un moment au sommet à les regarder, et ensuite je descendais sa voiture à la zone d'atterrissage.
Je crois que c'est la seule fois de ma vie, que j'ai été jaloux !

Je l'ai vu passer en formation avec trois rapaces, et ça a durer presque une minute. Quel dommage que je n'avais rien pour le prendre en photo.
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One day I had accompanied him to Millau, to Puncho d'Agast (the main site, with the orientation of the wind). I spent a moment at the top looking at them, and then I was getting off his car to the landing zone.
I think it's the only time in my life that I've been jealous!

I saw him go in training with three raptors, and it lasted almost a minute. What a pity I had nothing to take a picture.



Sur cette photo du site dans des conditions météo similaires, on voit bien que tous les parapentes sont regroupés dans la même zone. Là où on peut faire du woofing. Les lois de l'aéronautique étant les même pour tous, les rapaces (assez nombreux dans la région) doivent passer dans la même zone. Mais qu'il y en ai un qui reste à un mètre d'un parapentiste, c'est plutôt rare. Alors trois qui restent en formation presque une minute, WOW !

Et puis, qui n'a jamais rêvé de voler avec les oiseaux ?
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In this photo of the site in similar weather conditions, we can see that all paragliders are grouped in the same area. Where we can woof. The laws of aeronautics being the same for all, the raptors (quite numerous in the region) must pass in the same zone. But that there is one that stays one meter away from a paraglider, it's rather rare. So three who stay in training almost a minute, WOW!

And who has not dreamed of flying with birds?

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You have many interests and much knowledge, stefada.
Beautiful narrative about your brother's flight with birds.
I remember you invited us for paragliding during Base Camp's



Kraland II trek - and I refused.
I almost regret that now smile


I forgot to thank you for filing the top40.nl 2.0 badge in the webpage you made love struck
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