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Oh, one other title comes to mind...: Cowboy Bebop!

I did love Cowboy Beebop. Even checked a couple years ago for other movies/serials by same director but couldn't find anything. Will have to check again.
Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex is very nice, but the stories are too political/complex (hence the name...! laughing )

I do have some issues with GITS. If you take each series, 1 and 2, by themselves and really concentrate, the story does make sense - mostly. There are some discontinuities I think between series' and also with the movie.
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Fantasia's kind of meh - but Fantasia 2000 hits all the right buttons.

And on an IMAX screen, with the fantastic sound system that comes with? Of course, it's too long for standard IMAX cinemas, but 3D IMAX theatres can play it by switching from reel 1 on the left eye, to reel 2 on the right eye. Genius.

Haven't seen Fantasia 2000. It was one of those I meant to watch and then forgot about. Thanks for the reminder.
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And now something completely different: "Samurai Deeper Kyo"...

Nice serie about - yes, you guessed it - samurais. But it's not the standard story on warlords and great battles.... Kyo is the killer-of-a-thousand-men and there's some magical sword....

Before you think I'm 13, this is not a series for small children... biggrin

(I enjoy the other titles better, but this still is on my harddisc)

By the way: I always like anime best with Japanese speech and English subtitles... how about you?




...and for the fighter jet fans: Macross Zero. Very cool flight scenes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macross_Zero


Akira
http://www.akira2019.com/releases.htm

Appleseed
http://www.appleseedthemovie.com/

Full Metal Panic!
http://www.full-metal-panic.com/

Ghost in the Shell
http://www.ghostintheshell.tv/

Samurai Deeper Kyo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samurai_Deeper_Kyo
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Nobody has yet mentioned...

Neon Genesis Evangelion

Now there's a series to spend time with!
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Oh yes ... Neon Genesis Evangelion...

How could I forget that one? This is really good indeed...

I really hope to see that on dvd sometime soon... I have some episodes when it was fansubbed...

Keep those titles coming... I'm searching for a nice serie like all the above titles... if anyone has a good one... I'm all ears!! hugs

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Evangelion comes highly recommended. I had a conversation with Yuki in the Anime team thread when I was starting this one. See Anime team thread - May 29th or so

We covered a bunch of stuff so you might want to take a look.

I've just finished burning Evangelion onto disc - took 1.5 dvd5's in avi files. Will play on LiteON dvd recorder. Hate to watch stuff on the computer.

I've dl'ed

Serial Experiments Lain
Boogiepop Phantom
Last Exile
Gundam Wing
Rurouni Kenshin/Samurai X
Appleseed

Can't be sure I got everything though. Should Boogiepop Phantom fit on one DVD5 compressed or one DVD9 uncompressed?

I am checking into Akira and Samurai Deeper Kyo. The date I got for Akira was 1988 - is that right?

Just finished Trinity Blood. I have to say that as much as I liked the graphics and the concept, it fell apart a little at the end. They did tie up most of the loose ends but left a lot unanswered. I don't mind if I have to work to understand a story line, I really prefer it that way, but I don't think my inattention was the problem in this case. On a scale of 1 to 10 I would have to give it a 7.5 - worth watching but a little weak on the follow through.
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Just finished Trinity Blood. I have to say that as much as I liked the graphics and the concept, it fell apart a little at the end. They did tie up most of the loose ends but left a lot unanswered. I don't mind if I have to work to understand a story line, I really prefer it that way, but I don't think my inattention was the problem in this case. On a scale of 1 to 10 I would have to give it a 7.5 - worth watching but a little weak on the follow through.

You know, a lot of people felt that way about Neon Genesis Evangelion when it completed its TV serial run. tongue A few got downright angry. The several subsequent reworkings of the end delivered some satisfaction, but the series still left a lot of questions unanswered. And the director liked it that way.
It's still a great series. Better in some ways for the ambiguity; you can keep watching it over and over and see something new and make a new connection each time. smile
Oh yes, I also prefer to watch it in Japanese with English subtitles. The English dubs don't say the lines with the same emotion that you hear in the Japanese.
I saw it the first time by renting DVDs from Blockbuster, but now I own the Platinum series that was released recently.
And, if you haven't heard, Anno is creating new Evangelion movies. See the Wikipedia link in my first post on this topic.
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You know, a lot of people felt that way about Neon Genesis Evangelion when it completed its TV serial run. tongue A few got downright angry. The several subsequent reworkings of the end delivered some satisfaction, but the series still left a lot of questions unanswered. And the director liked it that way.
It's still a great series. Better in some ways for the ambiguity; you can keep watching it over and over and see something new and make a new connection each time. smile
Oh yes, I also prefer to watch it in Japanese with English subtitles. The English dubs don't say the lines with the same emotion that you hear in the Japanese.
I saw it the first time by renting DVDs from Blockbuster, but now I own the Platinum series that was released recently.
And, if you haven't heard, Anno is creating new Evangelion movies. See the Wikipedia link in my first post on this topic.

I understand your point about the lack of a full dénouement. That doesn't bother me so much if it follows the plot and I know that there will be a sequel where these things will be addressed. But my problem with Trinity was the fact that they made the attempt and did not completely succeed. It's one thing to INTENTIONALLY leave people in suspense. That's cool. It's another to provide answers that that don't really hit the mark.

If you're an anime fan, there's a good chance you're also a scifi fan. If so, you know all about the new Battlestar Gallactica. There are lots of unanswered questions in that series, but each season a few get answered and few new ones get raised. That, IMHO, is good story telling.

I haven't gotten to Evangelion yet, but I'm assuming that it falls into the good story telling category.

What do y'all think of RahXephon? I've seen enough episodes (out of sequence unfortunately) to have a rough idea of the story line. It seems imaginative and seems to have a lot of potential. Any opinions?
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OK, it turns out that the version of Neon Genesis Evangelion that I got is in Japanese with English sub titles. I know everyone has said this is the best way to watch it, but NORMALLY, I would say scr3w it and wait to find one dubbed in English. But on the strength of the glowing recommendations that have been posted here, I'm going to watch it. I used to go see subtitled films on a fairly regular basis and it never bothered me. But one of the things I like about anime is the graphics and reading the subtitles does distract from that. I think part of it might also be that there seems to be more dialog than you would find in your average foreign film but I'm sure I'll adapt.

I had to pause halfway through the first episode and I think it's already getting a little easier.
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I understand your point about the lack of a full dénouement. That doesn't bother me so much if it follows the plot and I know that there will be a sequel where these things will be addressed. But my problem with Trinity was the fact that they made the attempt and did not completely succeed. It's one thing to INTENTIONALLY leave people in suspense. That's cool. It's another to provide answers that that don't really hit the mark. ... I haven't gotten to Evangelion yet, but I'm assuming that it falls into the good story telling category.


The first few episodes of Evangelion are a good story. The characters are introduced, we discover their flaws and their inner struggles, and they are supplied with external battles that they must fight. The protagonist undergoes some character development.

But then it gets strange. Major conflicts develop, but the reasons behind the conflicts aren't clear. Eventually the series dissolves into psychological introspection and analysis, and the external world becomes irrelevant.

This was intentional. The director had recently gone through psychological therapy, and he used the series to illustrate what he'd felt and what realizations he'd come to.

Sequels weren't planned, but they were demanded by a confused audience. So the market was there, and the sequels were created, but the director still left quite a bit of ambiguity so that the viewer wouldn't have all the answers and would be forced to think about the series and their own psychological state.

It shows the strength and excellence of the series that even with these challenges, the series is loved by many and continues to be popular. All of the major characters and a number of the minor characters hold your interest throughout the series. And the basic premise, that only 14-year-old emotionally immature adolescents in giant robots can save the world and achieve the goals of their adult supervisors... well, that's got to keep you in suspense.
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