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retsof
Former Community Advisor USA Joined: Jul 31, 2005 Post Count: 6824 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Do the profiles all have the same "Connect to server every X days" value? It sounds like the Work profile has the 0.1 default value. When I was running 5.7 it didn't matter what I set the network value to. 0.1 day. 2 days. 5 days. ... all the same. get 10. run 10. get 10. run 10. Going back to 5.4.11 fixed the problem. Sekerob's interesting problem is that 2 machines with 5.8.2 have different behavio(u)r.
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cio_redulla
Advanced Cruncher Philippines Joined: Apr 24, 2006 Post Count: 130 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Do the profiles all have the same "Connect to server every X days" value? It sounds like the Work profile has the 0.1 default value. When I was running 5.7 it didn't matter what I set the network value to. 0.1 day. 2 days. 5 days. ... all the same. get 10. run 10. get 10. run 10. Going back to 5.4.11 fixed the problem. Sekerob's interesting problem is that 2 machines with 5.8.2 have different behavio(u)r. I wasn't able to try 5.7 retsof but now I'm sure that 5.4.11 works fine. I currently have 20+ in the buffer, I can't wait for the project to come back online so I can download additional units.  |
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cio_redulla
Advanced Cruncher Philippines Joined: Apr 24, 2006 Post Count: 130 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Do the profiles all have the same "Connect to server every X days" value? It sounds like the Work profile has the 0.1 default value. When I was running 5.7 it didn't matter what I set the network value to. 0.1 day. 2 days. 5 days. ... all the same. get 10. run 10. get 10. run 10. Going back to 5.4.11 fixed the problem. Sekerob's interesting problem is that 2 machines with 5.8.2 have different behavio(u)r. I successfully reported one finished unit, hehehe! |
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Ingleside
Veteran Cruncher Norway Joined: Nov 19, 2005 Post Count: 974 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Hello Ingleside, Are there benefits in using the new client? I mean, I'm using 5.4.11 right now and I've noticed that I'm not having any problem downloading additional WUs. Should I switch to a new client? V5.8.xx is expected released "real soon now", so it's likely better to wait until released... As for upgrading, this is really subjective if you wants one of the new features or not, and depends on bug-fixes... For bug-fixes, over v5.4.xx only can remember for the moment is a fix for when servers changes ip-address, and that hopefully all proxy-users can now upgrade from v4.xx so these older clients can be removed. It's likely many bug-fixes I'm forgetting... v5.2.xx and earlier, in my opinion bug-fixes alone would warrant to upgrade ASAP... New features, Simplified GUI, improved work-request and cpu-scheduler, cpu-throttling, memory-limits and enforcements of these. You also have disk-usage-pies and network-limits finally working again, more detailed logging-options, and some things I'm forgetting to mention... Oh, nearly forgot, when a projects scheduling-server and web-server is both unaccessible, the deferral is decreased to 1 day, from the earlier 1 week in v5.4.xx and 2 weeks in earlier clients...  "I make so many mistakes. But then just think of all the mistakes I don't make, although I might." |
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cio_redulla
Advanced Cruncher Philippines Joined: Apr 24, 2006 Post Count: 130 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Hello Ingleside, Are there benefits in using the new client? I mean, I'm using 5.4.11 right now and I've noticed that I'm not having any problem downloading additional WUs. Should I switch to a new client? V5.8.xx is expected released "real soon now", so it's likely better to wait until released... As for upgrading, this is really subjective if you wants one of the new features or not, and depends on bug-fixes... For bug-fixes, over v5.4.xx only can remember for the moment is a fix for when servers changes ip-address, and that hopefully all proxy-users can now upgrade from v4.xx so these older clients can be removed. It's likely many bug-fixes I'm forgetting... v5.2.xx and earlier, in my opinion bug-fixes alone would warrant to upgrade ASAP... New features, Simplified GUI, improved work-request and cpu-scheduler, cpu-throttling, memory-limits and enforcements of these. You also have disk-usage-pies and network-limits finally working again, more detailed logging-options, and some things I'm forgetting to mention... Oh, nearly forgot, when a projects scheduling-server and web-server is both unaccessible, the deferral is decreased to 1 day, from the earlier 1 week in v5.4.xx and 2 weeks in earlier clients... The improved UI is the primary reason why I liked 5.8.+. But because I experienced no problems buffering WUs in 5.4.11, I had to switch back to the old version. And I did not particularly like the way the new BOINCs implement CPU throttling, :-). |
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Sekerob
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Do the profiles all have the same "Connect to server every X days" value? It sounds like the Work profile has the 0.1 default value. When I was running 5.7 it didn't matter what I set the network value to. 0.1 day. 2 days. 5 days. ... all the same. get 10. run 10. get 10. run 10. Going back to 5.4.11 fixed the problem. Sekerob's interesting problem is that 2 machines with 5.8.2 have different behavio(u)r. Resisting all itch to intervene, the night of day 7 made BOINC 5.8.2 to see the light also on the C2D and decided to download work from WCG according weight and buffer size.... with 4 still in queue it was backfilled to 13 and trickling now....2 minutes after it automatically ran a benchmark with slightly higher rating. Pourquoi (?)  Update: For every FAAH completed (purposefully taken out of profile), it started giving 3 of the other projects back...... now almost 30 in queue.... the mysteries of BOINC :D
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retsof
Former Community Advisor USA Joined: Jul 31, 2005 Post Count: 6824 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Update: For every FAAH completed (purposefully taken out of profile), it started giving 3 of the other projects back...... now almost 30 in queue.... the mysteries of BOINC :D Watch those due dates. WCG is one week. Due dates range from 12 hours to many months for other projects. If you ask for a project with short workunits, the queue will fill up with those and keep running them until it is getting close to the WCG due date. WCG will just sit there. WCG will finally run when the due date is closer than any of the other work in the queue. Conversely, it is not a good idea to run short projects at the same time as a multimonth climate simulation that would never finish in time.This is similar to what happens if you get one of the WCG "fourth workunits" needed to resolve a dispute. The due date is one day. Any other running WCG workunit will be postponed at that point and the new one will run. When it's complete, the other workunit will resume where it left off. BOINC has best results if you can find some other projects with a due date of about a week. BOINC has a resource share that is supposed to allocate time between projects. When the due dates are wildly different, BOINC will notice that the little ones need attention to finish in time.
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Sekerob
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retsof.... I've never been a due date watcher and never worried about it... BOINC always send the result back in time, bar very long ISP S.U. during the last 3 week absence.
----------------------------------------For those watchers of the DCF, BOINCview in latest beta 1.4.1 now has this as an added column reading it directly from the client state file. No difference as before.... 5 projects have very healthy values of 0.6 to 0.8, except the C2D that shows WCG as 1.96....... It beautifully trickled for a few days, then got 3 or 4 tasks with poor TtC..... happens!
WCG
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Sekerob
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After another session of drawing attention, this note was recorded today by the BOINC developers:
----------------------------------------David put in a fix for the next version of BOINC. David 30 Jan 2007 - core client: computation of duration_correction_factor was messed up. E.g. when the correct value is .5, it converges to sqrt(.5) Hopefully this fix puts an end to the draining of work buffers before 5.8 is finalised. The next development version would be 5.8.8. NB: Some have started to refer to the Duration Correction Factor as 'RDCF', adding 'Result' before the known 'DCF' acronym...oh well.
WCG
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cio_redulla
Advanced Cruncher Philippines Joined: Apr 24, 2006 Post Count: 130 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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After another session of drawing attention, this note was recorded today by the BOINC developers: David put in a fix for the next version of BOINC. David 30 Jan 2007 - core client: computation of duration_correction_factor was messed up. E.g. when the correct value is .5, it converges to sqrt(.5) Hopefully this fix puts an end to the draining of work buffers before 5.8 is finalised. The next development version would be 5.8.8. NB: Some have started to refer to the Duration Correction Factor as 'RDCF', adding 'Result' before the known 'DCF' acronym...oh well. Well, I'll wait until another non-beta version of BOINC rolls out. I was able to download 115 units using 5.4.11,  . Anyway, I hope my machine will finish crunching these WUs before the deadline.cio_redulla |
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