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Forum: Human Proteome Folding - Phase 2
Thread: 24 hours and 0% completion? |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Now I run 15h ago and I see the proteine moving into the 'i' window. but no other figures into the score and progress bar windows. well it's good that you have a moving picture in your graphics, i had nothing.I'll stop my system this night I'll hope to save my CPU time. If this a WU trouble how to clear this current WU and obtain a new one. maybe your work unit is good, but just slow. i would keep it on for a while, because i think the techs are working on these problems  |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Thanks.
I'm waiting for more. |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
One more time my CPU is trestarted to 0 at the power on?
AMD 3200+ XP Pro Up to date WCG agent 3.0 hpfé 5.0.5.2 |
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Sekerob
Ace Cruncher Joined: Jul 24, 2005 Post Count: 20043 Status: Offline |
Suppositioning, if your progress shows 0% for 15 hours, unless the progress bar is stuck in limbo, restarting your machine will result in it starting from "real zero" again....now that's a waste of time. Best you abort and retrieve a new workunit.....the HPF2 science has just been upgraded from 5.06 to 5.07 to catch a number of repetative errors, The BOINC users can see them in their logs but not those on UD agent (Dont see anything like a log file in the UD Program dirs, but then i've never run UD agent with HPF2, only FAAH and HPF1).
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
I agree that's a waste of time.
Please how to abord a WU to obtain a new one? Reinstall WCG? Thanks a lot for your comments |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Alther answered this just recently: To terminate the work unit, go into the Task Manager and find the 'wcg_hpf2_rosetta.exe' process. Select it and click the 'End Process' button.
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Thanks, the WU is cancelled now I 'm running an FAH WU and the progress bar is moving.
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Sekerob
Ace Cruncher Joined: Jul 24, 2005 Post Count: 20043 Status: Offline |
Just for the heck of it, fired up ol UD. It grabbed a HPF2....fancy graphs i must say showing up in 15 minutes, now progressed a shattering 4% in 1 hour.....i'll revert to BOINC again. Longest HPF ever i seen was 7 hours on my cruncher.
----------------------------------------PS, i come across 1 HPF2 on BOINC, that had checkpoints of 9,091% each i.e. 11 steps to complete, so there is here a real case for P pills for those that cant stand it  -- This post has been edited for inappropriate language - nelsoc
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Alther
Former World Community Grid Tech United States of America Joined: Sep 30, 2004 Post Count: 414 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Suppositioning, if your progress shows 0% for 15 hours, unless the progress bar is stuck in limbo, restarting your machine will result in it starting from "real zero" again....now that's a waste of time. Best you abort and retrieve a new workunit.....the HPF2 science has just been upgraded from 5.06 to 5.07 to catch a number of repetative errors, The BOINC users can see them in their logs but not those on UD agent (Dont see anything like a log file in the UD Program dirs, but then i've never run UD agent with HPF2, only FAAH and HPF1). This is not the best advice, though understandable. The percent complete increases only when a structure has been completed. Unlike HPF1, each structure takes much, much longer to complete. Also unlike HPF1, HPF2 checkpoints at regular intervals, so while you may think it's at 0%, it's really progressing and if you have to restart BOINC or UD, it will actually restart where it left off. The problem is there is no way to predict how many attempts each strucutre will take to converge. e.g. The first structure may take 10 attempts, the next one 2. It's totally stochastic. On UD you can see if the WU is actually "working" by checking out the graphics. If the graphs progress, it's working. The graphs represent progress through each attempt. On BOINC there are no such graphics, but you can see if it's checkpointing regularly by looking for .ckp files in the boinc slot directory. "regular" meaning anywhere from 5 minutes to 45 minutes depending on the speed of your machine and the difficulty of the WU. I know it's confusing not seeing the percent increase after a long while. It would be possible to update the percent complete throughout an attempt, but if the structure does not pass, then we'd have to reset it back to the previous percent complete. Perhaps this is better as it provides better feedback that something is going on? Then again, we would end up with lots of questions like "HPF2 seems to be stuck. It just seems to keep going in circles. My percent keeps resetting after n hours..." Which way makes more sense to you folks?
Rick Alther
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Hi Rick,
I think that BOINC's lack of graphics means that it would be a good idea to show the percentage increasing during an 'attempt'. We would still have to explain in the forum (repeatedly) why the percentage kept dropping back. For UD, the graphic line being drawn should be enough. Lawrence |
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