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Re: New users increase but results are decreasing.

looks like they are tuning the size to increase them, which could account for a percieved decrease in productivity if you're only looking at the WUs returned.


Yes, that was my initial speculation and I wish they would verify this. The link you provided gave an obscure response. Details and specifications would be ideal. I guess we may never know.


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Re: New users increase but results are decreasing.

I think I read somewhere on the site that WU do get processed several times from more than one user.


..............well people, i just found out that that indeed is true - i was whining about the troubles i'm having with my current unit on a recent post and another community member just informed me that they have the same unit working away on their pc ................so there's some proof that this theory is true :-)
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Re: New users increase but results are decreasing.

how do you determine which specific work unit you are processing?

Where is the serial number?
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Re: New users increase but results are decreasing.

how do you determine which specific work unit you are processing? Where is the serial number?


open the 'explorer' window - click on your c: drive icon - click on the 'programs' directory - then on the 'World Community Grid' directory - amongst the files you'll see an .exe icon (white square with blue strip on top) with the file title ud_12345.exe - those 5 digits are the number of the unit that is being executed on your pc at the moment - OF COURSE I DEDUCED FROM READING ADVICE IN THIS FORUM AND APPLYING MY OWN THOUGHT PROCESSES TO IT - when my unit in process kept aborting, i exited from wcg, went to this file and deleted it, relaunched wcg and it downloaded a new unit (which oddly enough has the same unit number), which seems to be working away just fine now............after 9.5 hours i'm at 12% and holding!
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smile Re: New users increase but results are decreasing.

The .exe file you mention is the same for all UD agents.

UD_21380.exe

The data file is the UD_xxxxx with no extention.

By deleting the UD_21380.exe you simply have told the agent to fetch another .exe for you....

You will notice that on initially installing the agent only 4 files are present.
Once logged onto the WCG server, the rosetta and all UD_.... files are downloaded.

Hope this helps.
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Re: New users increase but results are decreasing.

Thanks biotch007 for this info.

My last two work units:

ud_37507
ud_687

Anyone have these?
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cool Re: New users increase but results are decreasing.

Biotech007 made an earlier post about this issue. He said that the .PDB file in the ud_21380_0 subdirectory was the Protein Base datafile containing the actual data on the protein actually being worked on. The alphabet soup in front of the .PDB identifies the different work units. He gave an .ORG URL (?? PDB.ORG ??) where the proteins were stored on the web. I haven't looked into this yet, other than to check my own computr directory, so I might be completely confused.
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Re: New users increase but results are decreasing.

I shall make a distinction...

The pdb file contains protein structural data - ie positioning and order of the peptide being processed. The pdb.org site is a protein database for already structually identified proteins...WCG does not store these on the pdb site...however may use them for cross referencing.

The UD_xxxxx contains work unit data - although I dont know exactly what it contains.

The UD_687 is also common among all agents.

Rosetta_wcg.out file within the subfolder UD_21380.dir is the resultant data from the number crunching. This file undergoes some post processing before it is sent back... maybe in the form of the UD_xxxxx file - this is speculative however.
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Re: New users increase but results are decreasing.

Interesting..
Anyway I'm processing W.U 13680
152 hours so far and its 53% complete >_<
On my other machine, most work units complete in one or two days. Maybe I just got stuck with a really BIG one?
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Re: New users increase but results are decreasing.

According to very careful reading of the above posts, it appears that this is how the Work Units are named:

04aj150080.pdb


It is located in this directory on your harddrive: "WorldCommunityGrid"
and under a subdirectory of something such as "ud_46113_0.dir" (perhaps with different numbers)

It may be possible that they have duplicate units assigned under different identifiers for tracking purposes.

It would seem unlikely that they would publish the results as they come in, because they may later either need (or want) to do additional test runs.

I have yet to get an answer on how many times they plan on processing each Work Unit.

The reasons may be diverse. One potential circumstance I could envision is a possibility that they find an error and thus would have forced them to take back all the results they would have otherwised published.
Another circumstance would be lack of new projects, in which they would likely just run the Work Units through more times than necessary as a measure of keeping public interest. If the grid dies for a few weeks it will take a massive hit on its user base.

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