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Speedy51
Veteran Cruncher New Zealand Joined: Nov 4, 2005 Post Count: 1326 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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It has been stated before that Linux is much more efficient with SCC than Windows so you should get some benefit from that. In regard to the SCC tasks seeing a benefit from Linux computation, I didn't know that but I do see them complete 2-3x as quickly as some of the MCM tasks So are we saying here that we should have our Linux systems prefer SCC over MCM? Or just let them be. There is no harm in just letting them be. But , as I see it, to get the most bang for the buck I have SCC on the Linux systems and MCM on the Windows system. Although, right now, it appears they have halted SCC distribution. Cheers It depends on what you are wanting for "most bang for the buck" if you are wanting "runtime for your badges" I would go with "Windows" if you are wanting to "return as many results as possible for SCC1" I would suggest using "Linux" I use "Windows" all the time as I have not been successful in "setting Linux up" I am okay with this  |
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Sgt.Joe
Ace Cruncher USA Joined: Jul 4, 2006 Post Count: 7850 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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It depends on what you are wanting for "most bang for the buck" if you are wanting "runtime for your badges" I would go with "Windows" if you are wanting to "return as many results as possible for SCC1" I would suggest using "Linux" I use "Windows" all the time as I have not been successful in "setting Linux up" I am okay with this I am in the camp of badges are nice but they are not the reason I am crunching. I would rather return as many work units as possible in the most efficient way possible given the constraints I have on hardware. Cheers
Sgt. Joe
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hchc
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Aug 15, 2006 Post Count: 865 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Speedy51 said:
----------------------------------------I use "Windows" all the time as I have not been successful in "setting Linux up" I am okay with this I could maybe put together a step-by-step guide on setting up a headless, security-hardened, minimalist (no desktop environment or GUI) Linux machine for BOINC WCG crunching since I'll probably have to set up new ones in the future and it'd be nice to just document it for myself and for others.
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hchc
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Some of y'all must be using 1000+ Watts of power with some of the server hardware I'm seeing. I'd love to be in a wealthy position to be able to do that someday. Or have solar/wind and not need to care.
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Sgt.Joe
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I could maybe put together a step-by-step guide on setting up a headless, security-hardened, minimalist (no desktop environment or GUI) Linux machine for BOINC WCG crunching since I'll probably have to set up new ones in the future and it'd be nice to just document it for myself and for others. An interesting thought. Since my Linux systems are only used for crunching, I am not too concerned about security on them, but knowing what some common sense security items would be would still be useful. If you ever put that guide together I would be interested. Cheers
Sgt. Joe
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BobbyB
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Since my Linux systems are only used for crunching, I am not too concerned about security on them, but knowing what some common sense security items would be would still be useful Ditto here but just for interest, mention "some common sense security items" or asked another way: what are some real security risks for a Ubuntu running BOINC in my basement. Berkeley vetted the program as did IBM in the past.Looked into headless and tried it. It was a one liner but am back to GUI for no particular reason. Now I know that to start the x-window system the command was startx. Just wish someone had invented stopx. It should be that simple. I also don't understand what Speedy51 said. Installing Ubuntu LTS was so simply: boot the CD/DVD/USBstick load BOINc, and go. [Edit 1 times, last edit by BobbyB at Jun 4, 2023 2:23:05 PM] |
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Dayle Diamond
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So are we saying here that we should have our Linux systems prefer SCC over MCM? Or just let them be? Create a profile on your Linux systems that only requests SCC, but accepts all work units if SCC is not available. For every efficient work unit you snatch up, it speeds the system as a whole by saving that work unit from going to a Windows machine and increasing the odds the Windows unit will be running MCM instead. |
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Speedy51
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[ I also don't understand what Speedy51 said. Installing Ubuntu LTS was so simply: boot the CD/DVD/USBstick load BOINc, and go. I am referring to installing on a hard drive and creating the swap partition et cetera needed to install Linux to get the most efficiency out of it. I am pleased you found it easy to install on a USB drive |
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BobbyB
Veteran Cruncher Canada Joined: Apr 25, 2020 Post Count: 638 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I must have mis-communicated some information. No! My machines are not running Linux on a USB drive. That would be terrible.
I meant you boot the installation medium (DVD in my case) and, like a Windows install, you answer a few question: language,timezone,userid,etc,etc,etc. I used a Ubuntu desktop install and it did all the rest of the setup. At the end you have a running linux system. Load Boinc, connect to WCG, done. If you install Boinc in Windows (and not run the client), you can use Boinc Manager to visit your machines and see what's up. I manage my 5 machines from Windows. PuTTY to open a command prompt session and WinSCP for a GUI to the file system. The workers are in a corner of the basement. |
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Sgt.Joe
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I must have mis-communicated some information. No! My machines are not running Linux on a USB drive. That would be terrible. I knew what you meant, however I do run some of my Linux machines directly from a USB. The experience, in my opinion, is not terrible, nor is the performance. The downside is if you have a power outage you need to reinstall BOINC. The upside is they use very little electricity and if and when the wear out, a 16 gb USB is currently less than $5 US. If left alone to just run BOINC they seem to last quite a long time, in excess of 2 years. Cheers
Sgt. Joe
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