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Former Member
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Please excuse my ignorance, if this is a really silly question or observation, but why does WCG need to create a Windows version for BOINC ?
Looking at the other projects available, they do not seem to have individual versions for Window or Linux. Isn't the point of BOINC to have a standard framework for processing data, set up by them to run on different operating systems which can then process data from a users chosen project. (ie Seti, WCG, etc gives any BONIC client the same data, which is then processed and return to them in one single file format whatever the client computers operating system.) Sorry if I'm being stupid  |
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Former Member
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Hi Slug,
At the very least, the application program has to be compiled to run under a specific OS. The application program often interacts with the grid agent (for example % complete, graphics). knreed is running a server database interacting with 3 different grid agents and debugging it on the fly. Way to go, knreed!! |
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knreed
Former World Community Grid Tech Joined: Nov 8, 2004 Post Count: 4504 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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How does one get the Boinc Windows version? Richard You can download the BOINC Windows agent here: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php After installation you will use the same account key that you used for the BOINC windows agent |
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knreed
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Hi Slug, At the very least, the application program has to be compiled to run under a specific OS. The application program often interacts with the grid agent (for example % complete, graphics). knreed is running a server database interacting with 3 different grid agents and debugging it on the fly. Way to go, knreed!! mycroft is correct - the rosetta executable for Linux will not run on Windows and vice versa (or any other platform in the future). Due to this you also need to test each platform to make sure that valid results are being produced. However - credit belongs in the appropriate place and I did not create the binaries of rosetta for BOINC. That was done by Rick Alther and another guy working with him (not sure if he has made himself known in the forums so I will ask him tommorrow). They deserve the credit for creating both the Linux and Windows rosetta binaries for BOINC (I run the servers and did the integration work between the BOINC software and our website). And while we are rolling the credits, Nelsoc of [this post was edited for profanity] fame did most of the web work. |
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Richard Maths 1
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I wonder if I asked the correct question.
I have Boinc v. 4.45 on my computer and running several projects with it. Later as soon as SZTAKI upgrades to v. 5.2.7, I will change also. For now with v. 4.45 and attaching WCG to Boinc, I need an URL and an account key. I am using the URL: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org But I do not know where I can get the account key. Keith suggested going to: "You can download the BOINC Windows agent here: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php" This goes to Boinc to download either v. 5.2.7 or v. 4.45. and using: "After installation you will use the same account key that you used for the BOINC windows agent" Since I am not going to download Boinc v.4.45 again, I have no idea what that account key would be, nor do I even remember having an account key for my copy of 4.45. Or do I have it somewhere and do not know where to find it? Thanks, Richard |
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Richard Maths 1
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Edit below for Kevin, instead of my mistyping Keith (opps!).
I wonder if I asked the correct question. I have Boinc v. 4.45 on my computer and running several projects with it. Later as soon as SZTAKI upgrades to v. 5.2.7, I will change also. For now with v. 4.45 and attaching WCG to Boinc, I need an URL and an account key. I am using the URL: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org But I do not know where I can get the account key. [edit] [Kevin] suggested going to: "You can download the BOINC Windows agent here: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php" This goes to Boinc to download either v. 5.2.7 or v. 4.45. and using: "After installation you will use the same account key that you used for the BOINC windows agent" Since I am not going to download Boinc v.4.45 again, I have no idea what that account key would be, nor do I even remember having an account key for my copy of 4.45. Or do I have it somewhere and do not know where to find it? Thanks, Richard |
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knreed
Former World Community Grid Tech Joined: Nov 8, 2004 Post Count: 4504 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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My apologies - when I wrote
----------------------------------------"After installation you will use the same account key that you used for the BOINC windows agent" What I meant was: "After installation you will use the same account key that you used for the BOINC Linux agent" If you have already generated the account key then you will be able to view it at the bottom of this page: https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/ms/viewMyProfile.do If you don't see it there then go to: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/ms/viewDownload.do and then click on 'Click Here if you have already downloaded the BOINC Agent' And the screen that appears will display your account key. However, we use features of of the BOINC client that were introduced in version 5.2.4 so you will need to upgrade to that level or higher in order to participate. [Edit 1 times, last edit by knreed at Nov 16, 2005 3:52:13 AM] |
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Richard Maths 1
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Kevin,
Thanks - It looks like I will wait until I upgrade to Boinc v. 5.2.7. However, I did look at the instructions and they seem to be written using command lines. Will I not be able to go to the BOINC Manager and click on "attach to new project" ? Probably it will be best to see what v. 5.2.7 askes me to do when I want to attach a project. thanks again, Richard |
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Former Member
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Hi Slug, At the very least, the application program has to be compiled to run under a specific OS. The application program often interacts with the grid agent (for example % complete, graphics). knreed is running a server database interacting with 3 different grid agents and debugging it on the fly. Way to go, knreed!! mycroft is correct - the rosetta executable for Linux will not run on Windows and vice versa (or any other platform in the future). Due to this you also need to test each platform to make sure that valid results are being produced. However - credit belongs in the appropriate place and I did not create the binaries of rosetta for BOINC. That was done by Rick Alther and another guy working with him (not sure if he has made himself known in the forums so I will ask him tommorrow). They deserve the credit for creating both the Linux and Windows rosetta binaries for BOINC (I run the servers and did the integration work between the BOINC software and our website). And while we are rolling the credits, Nelsoc of [this post was edited for profanity] fame did most of the web work. Thanks Guys. Thought there was a bit more to it than I knew. My main reason for jumping in to the forums all of a sudden (and on this subject) is that from my initial look at the BOINC client, I will finally be able to deploy it across my network WITHOUT having to visit every PC.  It has always seemed a shame to me that this has been difficult to do with the current version of WCG UD agent as I feel it has stifled growth in the project. (Although I joined quite a while back, I wasn't crunching WUs for 6 months until I was able to deploy WCG as I was blowed if I was going to have to visit each PC to log it in.) I would be grateful if someone could let us know if it is OK to continue using the Windows version of BOINC for WCG. (Obviously we all don't want to cause any unnecessary problems.) |
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Former Member
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WCG support BOINC windows client now?
----------------------------------------11/15/05 10:43:03|World Community Grid|Sending scheduler request to https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/boinc/wcg_cgi/fcgi 11/15/05 10:43:03|World Community Grid|Reason: To fetch work 11/15/05 10:43:03|World Community Grid|Requesting 8640 seconds of new work 11/15/05 10:43:08|World Community Grid|Scheduler request to https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/boinc/wcg_cgi/fcgi succeeded 11/15/05 10:43:09|World Community Grid|Started download of rosetta_4.19_windows_intelx86 11/15/05 10:43:09|World Community Grid|Started download of win_paths.txt 11/15/05 10:43:13|Pirates@Home|Deferring communication with project for 13 minutes and 16 seconds 11/15/05 10:43:13|World Community Grid|Finished download of win_paths.txt 11/15/05 10:43:13|World Community Grid|Throughput 494 bytes/sec 11/15/05 10:43:13|World Community Grid|Started download of avgE_from_pdb 11/15/05 10:43:16|World Community Grid|Finished download of avgE_from_pdb 11/15/05 10:43:16|World Community Grid|Throughput 19998 bytes/sec 11/15/05 10:43:16|World Community Grid|Started download of Paa_n 11/15/05 10:43:18|boincsimap|Sending scheduler request to http://boinc.bio.wzw.tum.de/boincsimap_cgi/cgi 11/15/05 10:43:18|boincsimap|Reason: To fetch work 11/15/05 10:43:18|boincsimap|Requesting 8640 seconds of new work 11/15/05 10:43:18|World Community Grid|Finished download of Paa_n 11/15/05 10:43:18|World Community Grid|Throughput 5213 bytes/sec 11/15/05 10:43:18|World Community Grid|Started download of plane_data_table_1015.dat . . . 11/16/05 07:44:56|World Community Grid|Computation for result de323_36_0 finished 11/16/05 07:44:58|World Community Grid|Started upload of de323_36_0_0 workunit finished but it didn't show I have reported any results in my account page. [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Nov 16, 2005 11:57:49 AM] |
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