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jhindo
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Re: Questions about science and technology for OpenPandemics (launch TBA)

Hi everyone,

Thanks for everyone's continued interest in the project.
  • Beta testing: no estimate yet of when this will begin, but we'll post in the main announcement thread when it does.
  • Compound libraries: the Scripps team plans to screen compounds from several libraries, including the ZINC database. The total number of compounds to be screened is expected to be in the millions.
  • Research method: the project will use the same version of AutoDock previously used on other drug docking projects such as FightAIDS@Home - Phase 1, but will also leverage a new reactive docking protocol.
  • Open data: in line with our open data policy, both the data generated and the tools developed for this project will be made available to the entire scientific community.

Many thanks,
Juan
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Re: Questions about science and technology for OpenPandemics (launch TBA)

Hello,

(I don't see my 2 last posts, did they be removed or do I just miss them?)

I understood the decision about Autodock was made by research partners.
Would it possible to ask research partners why they don't use Autodock Vina?
Indeed, quoting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AutoDock:
"AutoDock has a successor, AutoDock Vina, which has an improved local search routine and makes use of multicore/multi-CPU computer setups.[3]

AutoDock Vina has been noted for running significantly faster under 64-bit Linux operating systems in several World Community Grid projects that used the software
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Indeed, there are a lot of crunching projects (included other Covid-19 related), why crunching on non-optimized projects? People CPU/GPUs resource isn't infinite.

Julien
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Re: Questions about science and technology for OpenPandemics (launch TBA)

I asked an extremely cogent question and it's been deleted. Why???

Different studies have shown the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein changes conformation to allow binding to human ACE2 receptor proteins. Will this project use the fusion conformation or a dynamic model???
Cryo-EM structure of the 2019-nCoV spike in the prefusion conformation
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/367/6483/1260
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Re: Questions about science and technology for OpenPandemics (launch TBA)

Reminder: The purpose of this thread is to allow as many volunteers as possible to ask questions about the science and technology for OpenPandemics. Thank you to the many volunteers who have asked relevant questions.

If your post has been deleted, it is because of one or more of the following:

Please stay on topic and limit your posts to questions rather than comments so that everyone can easily see the information that will be posted here.

Please review the thread before posting to make sure that your question has not already been asked.

Any volunteer posts that are not questions about the science and technology behind the project will be deleted.

Any volunteer posts that are lengthy comments with a question embedded in the comment, or re-hashes of questions that we have already answered, will also be subject to deletion.
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Re: Questions about science and technology for OpenPandemics (launch TBA)

The initial announcement mentions a desire to find drug discovery tools and processes that can be deployed in future pandemics. Can we find out the thinking on how this might be accomplished.
Nobody seems to have replied to my prior question on how this study differs from an influenza study done previously which seems to have been foreshortened. That answer may help answer the above question.
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Re: Questions about science and technology for OpenPandemics (launch TBA)


The other projects with COVID-19 work units are experiencing bandwidth issues - is World Community Grid prepared for a similar surge in demand?


Where/what are the other projects exactly? I only run Rosetta@home here.

Thanks in advance.

Apart from that, to admins: Why is this called a COVID-19 and not a SARS-Cov-2 project?

Thank you as well.
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Re: Questions about science and technology for OpenPandemics (launch TBA)

Hi everyone,

To answer your questions:
  • The main reason AutoDock was picked over Vina is because the research team wants to leverage a new reactive docking protocol, which is only available in AutoDock.
  • The tools & methods Scripps will be developing aim to ease the burden of running large scale, high-throughput drug discovery computational efforts. i.e. tools to help streamline the pre & post data processes so that scientists can respond to future pandemics more easily.
  • How this project compares to the influenza project: The harsh reality is that there are no guarantees of success when it comes to scientific research. Also, funding agencies are no longer motivated to continue funding influenza studies, since the flu is viewed as part of the circle of life and it isn’t quite as communicable and certainly not as deadly as COVID-19. While there are no guarantees of success with OpenPandemics, the team at Scripps is doing everything they can to maximize the project’s impact, by thinking strategically about future pandemics and not just COVID-19, by lining up collaborators for testing, etc.
  • The name of this phase of the project references COVID-19 (the disease) and not SARS-Cov-2 (the virus which causes the disease) because the former is more recognizable and relevant to the search for possible treatments.

Aurum420, I don't know the answer to your question, so will refer to the research team and get back to you.

Many thanks,
Juan
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Re: Questions about science and technology for OpenPandemics (launch TBA)

First of all, thanks for the interest in our project! This post is to elaborate on why we opted for AutoDock4 instead of AutoDock Vina.

Both Vina and AutoDock4 are developed in our lab under the AutoDock Suite project. Each has their own advantages, and that is why we keep working with both programs. Generally, docking involves evaluating thousands to millions of conformations and orientations (i.e. poses) of the molecule being docked, before the best result is found. While evaluating a single pose takes approximately the same time in both AutoDock4 and Vina (a few microseconds), Vina is faster because it needs to evaluate fewer poses before reaching the best result. The reasons for this are an efficient search algorithm and a simpler scoring function to describe the interactions.

What Vina gains in performance is lost in flexibility. AutoDock4 allows expert users to tweak the scoring function and define custom potentials. This allows the implementation of very complex protocols and functionalities that would not be possible otherwise. One of these protocols is the Reactive Docking, which is used to model molecules that are able to react with the protein and form a covalent bond. Such molecules are often called suicide inhibitors (a well-known example is penicillin). AutoDock4 can be used to simulate the formation of a chemical bond between a reactive molecule and a protein, thereby predicting if the reaction occurs. A neat feature is that we can implement this protocol without requiring any changes to the code of the program that runs on the WCG, which reduces considerably the effort to use this method without extensive coding efforts on either our end or the IBM side. The Reactive Docking is one of the aspects that make this project unique, because it will allow us to identify suicide inhibitor candidates to be tested by our collaborators.

Besides, for this project we are tuning the search parameters to reduce the number of poses that AutoDock4 evaluates. Our tests show that for some molecules this will bring the runtime of AutoDock4 closer to that of Vina.
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Re: Questions about science and technology for OpenPandemics (launch TBA)

(I'm pleased to see that this OpenPandemics forum now has a "Reply" facility. Because there was no such faciIity at the time, I asked the following question in the FAAH Phase 2 forum on Apr 23 2020 in Victors Corner , but there have been no replies so far).
In her post there on March 12 2020, caitilarkin says, "3. The Scripps team has started working on an updated version of Autodock/Vina. As this work progresses, we'll get more details from the researchers. The plan right now is that this new version will be operational later this year, unless other priorities come up."

Are the updates mentioned there confined to the new Reactive Docking protocol that will be used in AutoDock for OpenPandemics, or are other updates also still planned?
With the 3 programs that have been used for FAAH (AutoDock, VINA and BEDAM) giving different results, it would seem to this mug cruncher that the molecular modelling algorithms could do with some more work. If that is the case, I sure hope that the scientists & programmers can achieve significant improvements.
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