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TonyEllis
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Re: Completion Date in Sight

There is also the possibility that Zika WILL end circa Jan 2017 - the scientists evaluate results so far - then continue the next phase of additional work with OpenZika 2, after perhaps another Beta...
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One should not have to dig deep into the forums to find an post that supposedly has the "correct" information rather than to rely on the official status page. That is why it is there. If it is wrong information then it should be fixed. What I don't understand is why there is so much wrong "official" information posted, or no information. I've been wondering how close we get to the posted end date before it gets changed, or maybe not even until the date has passed.

I got "burned" by mis-information on the end date on MCM that was not corrected until just before the end was reached. Meanwhile, I fell just a little bit short of attaining UGM because I was mis-directed by unreliable "official" information. I don't know about some of the previous posters, but I like truthful information and dislike the opposite.

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Maxxina:
No its not, Its quite obvious from being told, there will be more work for this. So january end date is no no . Its kinda same As TB topic, where people cry like crybabies they not getting work. It should be closed here and there also

I don't know how you are privy to some secret information about the "real" end date. Perhaps you might share your secret rather than name calling. I am relying on the OFFICIAL, WCG-provided, up-to-date information. Take a look here Research Overview and you can see that us "crybabies" are being told January 2017. As gb009761 stated, the way to end the thread is to correct the misinformation.
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Re: Completion Date in Sight

Mama Mia, is it that hard to apply common sense ?

As Erika posted : The research team is planning on looking at additional targets. They plan to screen millions of compounds (as is mentioned in the Project Details page), and so far they've screened less than 8,000 (as is mentioned in the recent project update).


And as it was told by official people MANY time, On research Page its not 100 percent accurate data . its just ROUGH estimate that take average of jobs completed in given time period .

Erika comment = there will be more work. They always added more work, when we were running towards the end. So that january end date is just some data which take in account ammount of jobs which are here now. But not taking in account future added jobs which are coming.

Same gonna be applied for Cancer markers. They told more work is comming to it. So that march is false also.
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The Research Overview page was 100% dead-on correct for UGM. I am counting on WCG to provide accurate information on which to make decisions. If the information on the Research Overview page is incorrect, then it must be corrected. It should not be up to us to look past the OFFICIAL status page and find some statement posted as a reply by a tech over a month ago in a forum thread. A month is plenty of time to correct the status page if it is truly incorrect. Some posters have speculated that the new work will be a new phase 2 project based on other postings. So when no one lays the truth out straight AND updates the status page, what or who are we to believe? WCG says that Zika is done in 6 weeks. Until the status page is updated, everything else is nothing but speculation.

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I'm totally with NixChix here - the only OFFICIAL information we've got to play with, is on the Research Page.
As Erika posted : The research team is planning on looking at additional targets They plan to screen millions of compounds (as is mentioned in the Project Details page), and so far they've screened less than 8,000 (as is mentioned in the recent project update).

I've highlighted the key bits of Erica's quote here - as they're the key bits of information, I personally plan to do loads of things in my lifetime (even in 2017), but that's not necessarily what's actually going to happen - as I've learnt through past experiences. Even here on WCG, I'd planned to reach many goals (Emerald for SN2S - I only managed 204 days, GFAM, again Emerald - 245 days, DSFL, yet again Emerald - 270 days), all cut short due to the various projects ending sooner than we were led to believe.

So, until the official information is updated, my sole attention is on Zika.
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Progress fell to 39%.
End of discussion, come back in 3 years ;-)
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On our conference call this afternoon, we received an updated *estimated* number of batches for this project. I've updated the estimate on the website accordingly.

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Hi everyone,

Let me reiterate that the projected end date is an *estimate* based on a number of factors including the total amount of work expected for the entire project. We talk to each research team monthly and if there's new information about the amount of work expected, we update our numbers accordingly, which automatically calculates the projected end date. For OpenZika, the researchers had stated that they fully expect to have plenty more work, but didn't have an estimate of how much more work was to come. Therefore, while we were very confident that the estimated end date of January was inaccurate, we couldn't provide a more accurate estimate. Today was our monthly call with them, during which they provided an updated estimate, which is now reflected on our website.

This highlights just some of the challenges we've found in providing accurate information regarding a project's end date - this scenario is not uncommon and we often just don't have enough information to provide an accurate estimate. The researchers may not know ahead of time how much work they need to run through as that sometimes depends on the results as they come in. In reality, the only time we tend to be confident about a project's completion date is when we're within a few weeks away from it. We are therefore rethinking the project progress bar all together as it's become a source of confusion and misinformation.

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Thank you jhindo & seippel for clarifying and really closing this topic down.

We can all now rest a lot easier, knowing that there's a heck of a lot more work coming down the pipe.
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