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Re: New Beta Test for PC - September 18, 2015 [ Issues Thread ]

Good news would also be when doubling the cpu time after suspend (LAIM off) or BOINC restart is fixed too.
I don't take the risk to test that yet. Will do tomorrow morning when they are at 90% biggrin


The double CPU fix was implemented in version 7.14 of the application. So we should be good from that standpoint.

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Confirmed.
I suspended 2 tasks running wcgrid_beta21_bedam_7.14_windows_intelx86.exe (LAIM off) at their 90% progress checkpoint.
After resume the run times between 2 checkpoints are similar to the run times before the suspend.
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Re: New Beta Test for PC - September 18, 2015 [ Issues Thread ]

We have just created the 2nd generation of the work units. There will be a few noticeable changes from the way they were named in the past. The work units may not have the wcgfahb identifier at the end of the file name.

For exmple, if a first generation had a name like this:
BETA_FAHB_avx38783-ls_000057_0015_001
then it's 2nd generation most of the time will look like this:
BETA_FAHB_avx38783-ls_000057_0015_002

The last 3 digits will determine how far along in the simulation it is. This will allow for the input file to change slightly from step 1 to step 3 million.

Note: if a grouping of 100k is not met, then members will see wcgfahb00200000 added, this lets you know you are continuing from where another member left off in that group of 100k steps.

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Re: New Beta Test for PC - September 18, 2015 [ Issues Thread ]

[ot]OET, their's something weird about the progress percent on Linux. We have 8 checkpoints, but progress goes in fixed steps of 10%. Opposed on Windows progress is incremented continuous in small steps. Tried with 7.2.42 and 7.6.7, with and without <fraction_done_exact/> config setting, no difference.[/ot]

A little off topic for the beta forum, but I also noticed this in OET, except for the first 10%. During that time it increments in the decimal thousandths space until 10%, then by increments of 10% after that.
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Re: New Beta Test for PC - September 18, 2015 [ Issues Thread ]

Haven't been following this thread but somehow managed to snag five betas. Four errored out but the last one was valid. These are the five I got:

BETA_ FAHB_ avx38783-ls_ 000005_ 0016_ 001_ 0-- Amberscomputer Valid 9/21/15 19:44:13 9/22/15 12:56:16 16.75 / 17.19 360.8 / 360.8
BETA_ FAH2_ avx17556_ 000061_ 0018_ 001_ 0-- Amberscomputer Error 9/18/15 22:03:08 9/18/15 22:07:08 0.00 / 0.00 0.1 / 0.0
BETA_ FAH2_ avx17556_ 000061_ 0017_ 001_ 0-- Amberscomputer Error 9/18/15 22:03:08 9/18/15 22:07:08 0.00 / 0.00 0.1 / 0.0
BETA_ FAH2_ avx17556_ 000050_ 0004_ 001_ 0-- Amberscomputer Error 9/18/15 22:01:03 9/18/15 22:03:08 0.00 / 0.00 0.1 / 0.0
BETA_ FAH2_ avx17556_ 000005_ 0016_ 001_ 0-- Amberscomputer Error 9/18/15 21:58:54 9/18/15 22:01:03 0.00 / 0.00 0.1 / 0.0

The four that errored did so the same way. Here's the log for one:

Result Name: BETA_ FAH2_ avx17556_ 000061_ 0018_ 001_ 0--



<core_client_version>7.6.9</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
Incorrect function.
(0x1) - exit code 1 (0x1)
</message>
<stderr_txt>
[18:03:17] INFO:Turning trickle messaging on.
[18:03:17] INFO:Turning intermediate uploads on.
%IMPACT-I: Requested file to open for appending md.out Does not exist.
Opening it as a new file.
%IMPACT-I: Softcore binding energy with umax = 1000.00000
%IMPACT-I: Using AGBNP2: Analytical Generalized Born Model + Analytic
Non-Polar Hydration Model
%IMPACT-I: Hybrid potential for binding with lambda = 0.85000
agbnpf_assign_parameters(): info: attempting to load from SQL tables.
agbnp2_der_vp(): error retrieving hash index for pair (1673, 588)
agbnp2_total_energy(): error in agbnp2_der_vp()
agbnp2_ener(): error in agbnp2_total_energy().
agbnpf: error in agbnp_ener().
%IMPACT-E: agbnpf() (analytical GBNP) failed

</stderr_txt>
]]>

Given that the four that errored came in on the 18th and the valid one was on the 21st, something probably got fixed. Here's the log for the valid one:

Result Name: BETA_ FAHB_ avx38783-ls_ 000005_ 0016_ 001_ 0--



<core_client_version>7.6.9</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
[15:44:23] INFO:Turning trickle messaging on.
[15:44:23] INFO:Turning intermediate uploads on.
%IMPACT-I: Requested file to open for appending md.out Does not exist.
Opening it as a new file.
%IMPACT-I: Softcore binding energy with umax = 1000.00000
%IMPACT-I: Using AGBNP2: Analytical Generalized Born Model + Analytic
Non-Polar Hydration Model
%IMPACT-I: Hybrid potential for binding with lambda = 1.00000
agbnpf_assign_parameters(): info: attempting to load from SQL tables.
[15:55:27] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 1000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 611.945123
[16:07:34] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 2000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 1246.900393
[16:18:49] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 3000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 1866.614365
[16:30:46] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 4000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 2485.142730
[16:43:23] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 5000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 3111.939148
[16:54:39] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 6000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 3710.920588
[17:04:38] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 7000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 4304.800795
[17:14:46] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 8000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 4903.829035
[17:24:57] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 9000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 5503.824481
[17:35:04] INFO: Sending trickle message to server.
[17:35:04] INFO: Starting intermediate upload, index = 1
[17:35:04] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 10000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 6102.883921
[17:45:07] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 11000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 6701.522158
[17:55:18] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 12000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 7303.467617
[18:05:29] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 13000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 7906.208680
[18:15:40] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 14000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 8506.422528
[18:25:47] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 15000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 9105.653569
[18:35:42] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 16000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 9700.188980
[18:45:42] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 17000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 10299.342021
[18:55:41] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 18000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 10897.465455
[19:05:41] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 19000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 11495.557689
[19:15:41] INFO: Sending trickle message to server.
[19:15:41] INFO: Starting intermediate upload, index = 2
[19:15:41] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 20000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 12094.975931
[19:25:39] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 21000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 12691.554956
[19:35:37] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 22000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 13288.617583
[19:45:37] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 23000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 13888.784630
[19:55:41] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 24000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 14490.886090
[20:05:43] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 25000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 15090.975136
[20:15:46] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 26000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 15693.560199
[20:25:51] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 27000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 16297.596071
[20:35:51] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 28000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 16894.596298
[20:45:49] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 29000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 17492.594931
[20:55:47] INFO: Sending trickle message to server.
[20:55:47] INFO: Starting intermediate upload, index = 3
[20:55:47] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 30000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 18089.517158
[21:05:47] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 31000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 18687.422190
[21:15:53] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 32000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 19291.442462
[21:25:54] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 33000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 19888.473889
[21:36:16] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 34000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 20489.888945
[21:46:29] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 35000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 21093.566014
[21:56:47] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 36000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 21695.449073
[22:07:03] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 37000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 22300.093348
[22:17:24] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 38000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 22908.824851
[22:30:26] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 39000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 23564.528254
[22:43:54] INFO: Sending trickle message to server.
[22:43:54] INFO: Starting intermediate upload, index = 4
[22:43:54] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 40000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 24225.988094
[22:54:46] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 41000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 24858.400548
[23:06:45] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 42000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 25483.605755
[23:18:54] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 43000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 26124.551464
[23:30:16] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 44000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 26763.219558
[23:43:44] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 45000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 27383.276733
[23:55:00] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 46000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 28005.814323
[00:04:59] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 47000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 28602.050145
[00:15:01] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 48000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 29198.005165
[00:25:04] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 49000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 29796.440602
[00:35:06] INFO: Sending trickle message to server.
[00:35:06] INFO: Starting intermediate upload, index = 5
[00:35:06] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 50000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 30397.590455
[00:45:04] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 51000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 30991.611063
[00:55:06] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 52000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 31591.356907
[01:05:03] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 53000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 32186.157520
[01:15:02] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 54000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 32781.379336
[01:25:02] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 55000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 33377.365556
[01:35:03] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 56000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 33974.896186
[01:45:03] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 57000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 34573.097621
[01:55:07] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 58000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 35173.529870
[02:05:08] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 59000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 35771.356902
[02:15:06] INFO: Sending trickle message to server.
[02:15:06] INFO: Starting intermediate upload, index = 6
[02:15:06] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 60000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 36367.405523
[02:25:10] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 61000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 36967.900172
[02:35:12] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 62000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 37566.585210
[02:45:14] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 63000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 38164.693044
[02:55:08] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 64000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 38758.261249
[03:05:11] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 65000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 39358.412696
[03:15:10] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 66000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 39954.258515
[03:25:21] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 67000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 40553.161954
[03:35:23] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 68000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 41152.096594
[03:45:21] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 69000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 41750.376029
[03:55:19] INFO: Sending trickle message to server.
[03:55:19] INFO: Starting intermediate upload, index = 7
[03:55:19] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 70000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 42345.613444
[04:05:23] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 71000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 42946.888099
[04:15:22] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 72000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 43543.857125
[04:25:24] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 73000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 44143.462569
[04:35:24] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 74000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 44742.350408
[04:45:28] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 75000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 45343.203860
[04:55:29] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 76000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 45942.372501
[05:05:29] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 77000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 46541.541141
[05:15:33] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 78000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 47142.862596
[05:25:32] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 79000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 47739.816023
[05:35:33] INFO: Sending trickle message to server.
[05:35:33] INFO: Starting intermediate upload, index = 8
[05:35:33] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 80000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 48338.625861
[05:45:33] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 81000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 48935.906890
[05:55:28] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 82000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 49527.618683
[06:05:26] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 83000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 50123.979305
[06:15:28] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 84000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 50721.899938
[06:25:32] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 85000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 51323.533395
[06:35:34] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 86000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 51923.388440
[06:45:34] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 87000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 52521.293473
[06:55:34] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 88000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 53119.900510
[07:05:37] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 89000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 53720.332759
[07:15:37] INFO: Sending trickle message to server.
[07:15:37] INFO: Starting intermediate upload, index = 9
[07:15:37] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 90000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 54318.034990
[07:25:39] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 91000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 54918.872842
[07:35:41] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 92000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 55518.259884
[07:45:41] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 93000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 56117.069722
[07:55:38] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 94000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 56713.040343
[08:06:12] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 95000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 57306.296546
[08:16:08] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 96000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 57902.064365
[08:26:04] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 97000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 58496.584176
[08:36:01] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 98000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 59092.180394
[08:46:00] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 99000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 59689.835825
[08:55:57] INFO: Checkpointed. Progress 100000 of 100000 steps complete CPU time 60284.574037
%IMPACT-I: Species 1 written to SQL file md-out1.dms
%IMPACT-I: Species 2 written to SQL file md-out2.dms
08:55:59 (8084): called boinc_finish(0)

</stderr_txt>
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Re: New Beta Test for PC - September 18, 2015 [ Issues Thread ]

The results will have a 4 day deadline. If someone does not start it by the 3rd day, then we tell them to stop. This gives members a chance to do work and have their machine off over the weekend.

Not much of a chance for a machine that's off on a weekend. I'm seeing total time estimates in days not hours for these, so that 4-day deadline looks pretty tight for machines that are not running constantly and/or fast.
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Re: New Beta Test for PC - September 18, 2015 [ Issues Thread ]

The current batch are OK, no errors.

BETA_ FAHB_ avx38783_ 000008_ 0012_ 001_ 1-- node3 Valid 9/21/15 19:55:22 9/23/15 04:13:42 32.07 / 32.19 422.0 / 422.0
BETA_ FAHB_ avx38783-ls_ 000017_ 0001_ 001_ 0-- node2 Valid 9/21/15 19:52:19 9/23/15 04:42:31 32.56 / 32.68 422.0 / 422.0
BETA_ FAHB_ avx38783-ls_ 000040_ 0001_ 001_ 0-- node2 Valid 9/21/15 19:50:13 9/23/15 04:35:45 32.46 / 32.57 422.0 / 422.0
BETA_ FAHB_ avx38783-ls_ 000005_ 0006_ 001_ 0-- node3 Valid 9/21/15 19:49:24 9/23/15 04:15:48 32.19 / 32.31 422.0 / 422.0
BETA_ FAHB_ avx38783-ls_ 000042_ 0013_ 001_ 0-- node3 Valid 9/21/15 19:45:15 9/23/15 04:13:42 32.28 / 32.39 422.0 / 422.0
BETA_ FAHB_ avx38783_ 000084_ 0008_ 001_ 0-- node2 Valid 9/21/15 19:37:56 9/23/15 04:13:54 32.26 / 32.37 422.0 / 422.0
BETA_ FAHB_ avx38783_ 000040_ 0008_ 001_ 0-- node3 Valid 9/21/15 19:34:22 9/23/15 04:13:42 32.18 / 32.30 422.0 / 422.0
BETA_ FAHB_ avx17556-ls_ 000003_ 0004_ 001_ 0-- node2 Valid 9/21/15 19:18:14 9/23/15 03:28:30 31.81 / 31.91 422.0 / 422.0
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Re: New Beta Test for PC - September 18, 2015 [ Issues Thread ]

Those later ones are also OK:

BETA_ FAHB_ avx17556_ 000037_ 0012_ 002_ 0-- P4L_FSC1410_01 In Progress 9/22/15 19:09:17 9/26/15 19:09:17 7.89 / 0.00 116.6 / 0.0
BETA_ FAHB_ avx38783_ 000083_ 0006_ 001_ 1-- Antun-Toshiba-C In Progress 9/22/15 18:11:26 9/26/15 18:11:26 0.00 / 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
BETA_ FAHB_ avx38783_ 000031_ 0000_ 001_ 0-- DOM04 In Progress 9/21/15 19:31:32 9/25/15 19:31:32 0.00 / 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
BETA_ FAHB_ avx17556-ls_ 000050_ 0009_ 001_ 0-- T60 In Progress 9/21/15 19:21:37 9/25/15 19:21:37 19.09 / 0.00 310.8 / 0.0
BETA_ FAHB_ avx17556-ls_ 000044_ 0011_ 001_ 0-- P4L-T61 Valid 9/21/15 19:19:26 9/23/15 02:00:12 27.33 / 30.21 482.5 / 482.5
BETA_ FAHB_ avx17556_ 000081_ 0010_ 001_ 0-- P4L_VS4 Valid 9/21/15 18:12:17 9/23/15 05:30:37 20.14 / 22.98 484.1 / 484.1
BETA_ FAHB_ avx17556_ 000079_ 0004_ 001_ 0-- P4L_VS4 Valid 9/21/15 18:12:17 9/23/15 05:30:37 19.89 / 22.81 480.6 / 480.6
BETA_ FAHB_ avx17556_ 000078_ 0014_ 001_ 0-- P4L_VS4 Valid 9/21/15 18:12:17 9/23/15 05:30:37 20.13 / 23.03 485.3 / 485.3
BETA_ FAHB_ avx17556_ 000082_ 0007_ 001_ 0-- P4L_VS4 Valid 9/21/15 18:12:17 9/23/15 04:22:49 19.79 / 21.68 456.7 / 456.7

but they are too big for normal crunchin'...size them down a little, if u can?!
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Re: New Beta Test for PC - September 18, 2015 [ Issues Thread ]

Indeed the new batch of beta WUs seems to be OK.
However there are still some problems with the estimated duration.
  • Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64, i7 4770K: estimated 14 hours, effective 12 to 13 hours
  • Linux 14.04 x64, Phenom II x6: estimated 17.5 hours, effective 29.5 hours

At this time, additional beta WUs are still being computed on additional hosts.
The other problem is similar to the August 25th batch, the granted credit are still inaccurate at least for Linux based hosts; with the current beta batch: 422 points for nearly 30 hours (based on OET1 contribution, it should be about 590 points for 29.5 hours).
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Re: New Beta Test for PC - September 18, 2015 [ Issues Thread ]

but they are too big for normal crunchin'...size them down a little, if u can?!
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The runtimes you experienced with the tasks above is nothing out of the ordinary from what I read from previous bata thread's for this application
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Re: New Beta Test for PC - September 18, 2015 [ Issues Thread ]

I was about to write that the size of the unit wouldn't make any difference if everyone received credit for work done up to the deadline. But that got me to thinking about the effect on the results returned rankings and how some people may be put off crunching 4 day units if their ranking position mattered to them. So it may be necessary to reduce the size for comparability in run time with other science WU.

Then a thought struck me, if credit is given for partial results how do you stop someone from gaming the system to make themselves look awesome by artificially bumping up their results returned count through taking a pile of units, crunching for 35 mins, then aborting the unit(or suspending it until past the deadline) to crunch other units,

Would these partial units then get credited same as a fully crunched unit in the results returned stats? I think the fairest answer would be to give a pro-rata credit on partial results returned e.g. 0.1 result, 0.4 result etc.


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