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Thread: FightAIDS@Home Estimated Completion Date ( June 4, 2015 ) ESTIMATE!!! |
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imakuni
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For all the people saying "just reduce the deadlines!", be aware that the minimum deadline for a given task is 4 days. It can go higher, but can't be less than that. This is a Boinc constraint, so there's just nothing WCG can do about it.
----------------------------------------About the BETA idea, while it could be done, why would it? Having the server abort a task would only have an impact on PCs that regularly connect to the server; however, those are, most likely, reliable hosts that would end up completing the task anyway.  Want to have an image of yourself like this on? Check this thread: https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread_thread,29840 |
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Former Member
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the last WUs are probably useless anyway, like 99.99% of the others. It is a brute-force approach afterall. on the other hand, what if these last WUs are problematic and are just spinning in digital hell, and have been doing so for years? Some manual help might be needed. There is no guarantee of results, but isn't it better than nothing? Also, there is a set number of times a WU will be reissued before it will no longer be sent and it is flagged. Once it hits 10, it won't be sent back out again. So, if the WU was sent to 9 people and they all manually aborted it, if the tenth person did the same, it would not be sent out again. The scientists would try to run it and see if they could compute it. So all of the WU's do get computed. |
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KLiK
Master Cruncher Croatia Joined: Nov 13, 2006 Post Count: 3108 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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For all the people saying "just reduce the deadlines!", be aware that the minimum deadline for a given task is 4 days. It can go higher, but can't be less than that. This is a Boinc constraint, so there's just nothing WCG can do about it. About the BETA idea, while it could be done, why would it? Having the server abort a task would only have an impact on PCs that regularly connect to the server; however, those are, most likely, reliable hosts that would end up completing the task anyway. just had several of those...resent OET to me on a 4d deadline! crunched in high-priority...so it can be done! ;) @lanbrown...a 100y on MCM...WoW!  |
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Robokapp
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Techs have other things to do than micromanaging ... they could be heads down coding the next project that is targeting to erase famine for a few billion. How's that more important than my badge???  On a serious note, I agree that it's probably a handheld creature that's chewing the last WU. Or maybe that one guy crunching on Windows 95... Either way such a mega-project coming to an end is bound to not go perfectly. Time and patience will fix it. Eventually. |
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Former Member
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Scuse me, but where is this fantasy "be aware that the minimum deadline for a given task is 4 days" coming from ;? As laid out before, but who really -reads- and then remembers to consider when evolving a conversation, the shortest at WCG is about 1.2-1.4 days when repair jobs of Beta are circulated [and repairs of repairs went rampant at one time, getting deadlines shorter than the run time, 35% of 35%]. Betas have been known to get 2 days to 10 days too for the _0 copy, depends on how much rush there is to get to a 'launch date dictate'... who does not remember, production already was kicked off, and betas still coming back ;D
----------------------------------------How is this controlled: By setting a percent of original deadline, 35% to be exact at this time. Long long ago it was 40%, but it has also been 30% too, when server storage space was too tight and batches needed to be migrated off quickly [A technical issue -NOT- a scientist/project requirement]. Some seem to want to dictate an exclusive WCG world, but reality is, volunteers run BOINC with sometimes 20-30 and more projects attached, each getting their 60 minutes slot [default], before going on to the next project. Projects have to consider this when setting their deadline [and a few being suspected of being manipulative ** to always get front of the queue]. So if WCG wants to game, everyone else could follow by example :/ ** FYI, Some projects are genuine, really build tasks on returned results... they give very short deadlines, less than a day. These kind of projects combined with others, often give the client hard scheduling work to do... lots of tasks interrupted, put in pre-empted, to let these race past... something BOINC automatically. [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Jul 1, 2015 9:25:58 AM] |
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Sgt.Joe
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On a serious note, I agree that it's probably a handheld creature that's chewing the last WU. Or maybe that one guy crunching on Windows 95... Maybe the person who returns the last WU should get a T-shirt or some other token to signify the end of the computing phase of this project. The curious among us really want to know when and by whom the end comes.  Cheers
Sgt. Joe
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Former Member
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The only ones to get commemorates are the IBMers [Saw something John the average volunteer had no getting to]... of course, there's the 'I helped Compute the AIDS problem' merchandize that will never exist (Wonder if that exclusive licensing is still in place?)
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Former Member
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On a serious note, I agree that it's probably a handheld creature that's chewing the last WU. Or maybe that one guy crunching on Windows 95... Maybe the person who returns the last WU should get a T-shirt or some other token to signify the end of the computing phase of this project. The curious among us really want to know when and by whom the end comes. Cheers I would say that the person who computed the most WU's should get a T-shirt or something. At the very least the top ten crunchers should get recognition by having the name listed somewhere. Having the most computing time is not the same achievement as computing the most WU's. Take a 100 slow machines and after a year you would have 100 years of computing time. Take fast machines that in total have 100 cores and you would have 100 years after a year. One completed many more WU's than the other though. |
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Well - it looks like only a few wu's remain out in the field - This project should be marked done by the end of the week - I'm guessing!
Then we are down to only 4 active projects - HELP - we need more projects to crunch on !!! |
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Well - it looks like only a few wu's remain out in the field - This project should be marked done by the end of the week - I'm guessing! Then we are down to only 4 active projects - HELP - we need more projects to crunch on !!! There is plenty of work in OET, plenty of work in UGM and I'd wager more than a few months than the prediction for MCM. I'm excluding CEP2 due to the requirements set for it. So why the need for more projects when UGM could uncover many unknowns and seriously advance medicine. MCM is searching for a cure of various forms of cancer. You or someone you know has a much more likelihood of getting cancer than say Ebola. I've thrown the majority of my computing time to what is important to me. I'm sure others have as well. So a new project doesn't mean much if it was to find a cure for Cotard’s. |
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