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Falconet
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Will be there a phase 2? With a new badge? No idea at this time, caro colega :) AMD Ryzen 5 1600AF 6C/12T 3.2 GHz - 85W AMD Ryzen 5 2500U 4C/8T 2.0 GHz - 28W AMD Ryzen 7 7730U 8C/16T 3.0 GHz |
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Reflect on the proposition: Would you create a new project phase with badge and all the overhead that comes with it, if the 'phase' were an estimated 5000 runtime years (70-80 days at FAHV speed)? Would you do so if the estimate is 50,000 years? Would you do so if you had no estimate at all how many re-scorings would have to be done, open ended? Would you even not bring it to the grid if no firm estimate can be made that ensures there's 6 months a year of computing, continuous or DDDT2 intermittent type? I've read [when we CA's were still getting occasional updates], of a project that was pulled as in the end it proofed just 3 weeks work. In short, it [BEDAM on the grid] not happening at all is a real possibility.
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twilyth
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It doesn't have to be a new phase, does it? Although you would still have most of the overhead like beta testing, it would at least give badge hunters a second chance to reach their goals.
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widdershins
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I hope it does come to WCG. Projects are getting a bit thin on the ground round here now.
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Still Alive
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It doesn't have to be a new phase, does it? Although you would still have most of the overhead like beta testing, it would at least give badge hunters a second chance to reach their goals. +1 ![]() PLEASE WCG ![]() AMD 3900X - 21 Threads @ 4,00 GHz - 24/7 Samsung Xcover4 - 4 Threads @ 1.43 Ghz - 24/7 |
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KLiK
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I hope it does come to WCG. Projects are getting a bit thin on the ground round here now. nope...but if nothing NEW comes till November (estimated MCM finish), then it wil be THIN! ![]() btw, it would be nice if WCG would give users an info about new projects sent to them...4 example (italics r d in): - project MERS, sent from University Berlin, papers 25% done - project Tubrculosis, sent from University Turin, paper 75% done - project Encefilatis, sent from University Zagreb, paper 50% done - project Hepatitis, sent from University San Francisco, paper 100% done so we could see which Uni/Collage or some Institution has submited projects...how far did they come with papers documentation 4 WCG...or they r in a program development phase! ![]() |
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Former Member
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Reflect on the proposition: Would you create a new project phase with badge and all the overhead that comes with it, if the 'phase' were an estimated 5000 runtime years (70-80 days at FAHV speed)? Would you do so if the estimate is 50,000 years? Even the 5000 years would be way longer than AfricanClimate@Home, right? (Argh! I could have got the additional 1 day for gold if I'd tweaked things more.) Where is the line drawn on these things? |
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6M-1Yr I think it is for a continuous stream. The 100 year badge levels has made the hurdle only harder for those that don't have horsepower to do a sapphire in 6M as then you need 4 cores 24/7 to even get 2YR. All the more reason not to go overboard on allowing much more than 35 IP per core, as else the daily pool of a limit availability project would be sucked dry before you can ;) an eye.
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KLiK
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6M-1Yr I think it is for a continuous stream. The 100 year badge levels has made the hurdle only harder for those that don't have horsepower to do a sapphire in 6M as then you need 4 cores 24/7 to even get 2YR. All the more reason not to go overboard on allowing much more than 35 IP per core, as else the daily pool of a limit availability project would be sucked dry before you can ;) an eye. Nope...WCG is an Umbrella project...& like all Umbrella projects it would need to spread out the results from different projects...so minimum that WCG needs is a 2 projects - otherwise u'll ru DRY! But that is not WCG problem...WCG wants from its members to use more project on which to crunch to! So no, they shouldn't increase more than 35 IP per core...it's OK with that it is! ![]() |
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Falconet
Master Cruncher Portugal Joined: Mar 9, 2009 Post Count: 3295 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
6M-1Yr I think it is for a continuous stream. The 100 year badge levels has made the hurdle only harder for those that don't have horsepower to do a sapphire in 6M as then you need 4 cores 24/7 to even get 2YR. All the more reason not to go overboard on allowing much more than 35 IP per core, as else the daily pool of a limit availability project would be sucked dry before you can ;) an eye. Nope...WCG is an Umbrella project...& like all Umbrella projects it would need to spread out the results from different projects...so minimum that WCG needs is a 2 projects - otherwise u'll ru DRY! But that is not WCG problem...WCG wants from its members to use more project on which to crunch to! So no, they shouldn't increase more than 35 IP per core...it's OK with that it is! ![]() I think SekeRob was saying pretty much not to increase to more than 35. AMD Ryzen 5 1600AF 6C/12T 3.2 GHz - 85W AMD Ryzen 5 2500U 4C/8T 2.0 GHz - 28W AMD Ryzen 7 7730U 8C/16T 3.0 GHz |
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