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cjslman
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Re: ! no tasks available !

I understand the "ramp up" and can select the other projects that there are (all are important). But... there are many crunchers who don't understand (or don't want to) and think that this was a badly planned release. I will admit, I am surprised at this very slow start (I got 3 OET WUs two days ago and haven't seen any more since). Let's all have some patience. I'm sure there will be plenty WUs to go around in the future and then we all be scratching our heads "how do I crunch so many projects?" biggrin

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Mike.Gibson
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It was pretty stupid of WCG to start up the project without sufficient work to keep crunchers active. However, there are other worthwhile projects to keep machines busy until the scientists can catch up with us. There are always periods when work gets low so I normally run at least 2 projects from WCG and another BOINC project to utilise my GPU. WCG haven't got around to that yet!.

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I think a bit of crying over not getting the work you want is silly in comparison to children dying, losing parents, siblings and many other family members to Ebola. I suggest while we are waiting for some of these work units to come to our machines we read some of these heartbreaking stories. I personally couldn't imagine leaving a 4 year old child behind to attempt to save the rest of the family. This is something nobody should have to experience and I believe that is why most of us are here.

I say hats off to these researchers and the WCG team for bringing this project to us as fast as they can to help the people in need.
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It was pretty stupid of WCG to start up the project without sufficient work to keep crunchers active.

The purpose of the project is not to keep crunchers active, but to find a cure for Ebola. If they wait to generate enough work units to give us something to do, it could add months to the time to find a cure.
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The launch isn't what discovers the cure. It's the finished work units that leads to the cure. No WUs, No cure. Perhaps a better approach would have been to take an extra week or two and fixed the checkpointing problem that was identified during beta testing and then launched the project. We already are running UGM slow due to lack of resources, why do we want to create another project that is throttled back too? On top of that, WCG makes public announcements that brings volunteers expecting to contribute and can't.
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I get tasks are committed to other platforms way more often than no tasks are available for OET. Just curious if it's known which platform(s) are hanging things up, or if this is just a relic of whatever was last delivered when nothing else is available?

The only point in the general debate that makes much sense to me, is the one posted above: it seems unfortunate to have a launch press release when so little work for it is available to WCG newcomers or return-ers attracted by that release. But it's done. Maybe they will be more patient than some of the rest of us :-p
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mali vuk
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I crunch what is available. If I will get OET I will be pleased if not I'm sure that there is good reason for that. One of the important issues of each project in generally is to finish it. Please think a bit of that. love struck
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It is always easiest to "play armchair quarterback" without having the full picture of what the Project is actually undergoing. Sure, anyone can look back and say this or that could have been done. But, we have today and the many days of tomorrow to help these scientists solve all manner of problems.

With this kind of work, a person needs to broaden their perspective well beyond a week or all the problems that happen with launching a new WCG Project. When your heart (and perspective) is in the work (first and foremost) all the other stuff is just chatter along the way to realizing something great.

Think back to every time our work has resulted in finding something new to attack a problem or disease. That sometimes takes years to realize, but we have people here that stick with helping regardless of the hiccups along the way. That is what makes WCG and all of our collective efforts so special.
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texinga, I'd hit the Like button if there was one.
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Propose the technicians use an 'In Progress' control per machine [they can as can be done with the beta program]. Only give the equivalent of 2x cores. This way all get some modicum of chance to fetch a few and speed up the quorum complete chance. Also recommend a mail to be send to all who signed up for OET1 exclusively to alert to the limited availability, describe the reason in all frankness and recommend to till then pick the "If there is not work for..." option. Yes I know, this is not why we came here for, said so myself too, but there's just a serious technical issue that cropped up why the floodgates could not be opened at the last minute.

Whilst, this research is now running, 50K results have returned that can be send back for the scientist to gloss over today, rather than waiting, further postponing then re-launching. Time in this case has money as subordinate, no time for frust.
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