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Thread: "Computing for sustainable water" vs CFCW ? |
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JEklund2
Advanced Cruncher Finland Joined: Aug 10, 2006 Post Count: 119 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Howdy all,
----------------------------------------I saw one unidentified project in Sek's fine charts which will be starting soon ( 16. April ) .. Any knowledge how it compares to this project ? PS: First time seeing info for project before it is started ? Strange   [Edit 2 times, last edit by JEklund at Apr 14, 2012 7:31:47 AM] |
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Former Member
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Hello JEklund,
Wait until the project scientists post their description of the project. Lawrence |
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Former Member
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Found this brief description on : http://faculty.virginia.edu/CFSW/projects.html
Computing for Sustainable Water The Computing for Sustainable Water (CFSW) project is one of three water-related projects selected to run on the IBM World Community Grid. This project evolved from the UVa Bay Game as a very detailed, simulation-only model of the Chesapeake Bay. Not a game, the CFSW model simulates over 34,000 spatial areas; 1,069 river and stream segments; and 4 million households over a 20-year period on a monthly basis. The model explores the potential outcomes of various practices (“Best Management Practicesâ€) on the nutrient loads reaching and impacting Bay health. The CFSW project will launch publicly on April 16, 2012 and will be available for execution on the World Community Grid, a network of nearly 2 million contributed computers. The model runs in the background of these volunteered computers using otherwise idle cycles and not interfering with the owner’s applications. There will be over 1.3 million experiments distributed to computers on the World Community Grid, each requiring approximately 7 hours of computing time. If this work were done on the UVa Cross-Campus Computing Grid (XCG), it would take about 90 years to complete; with the power of the IBM World Community Grid, it will require less than one year. Collaborators: Jeffrey Plank Ph.D., David Smith Ph.D., Mark White Ph.D., William Sherman M.F.A. Graduate student: Ryan Bobko www.faculty.virginia.edu/CFSW www.worldcommunitygrid.org |
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JanM
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Hi JEklund,
If you search for CFSW on this forum will find lots of post on it already. In the next one there is a link to a site of the scientists. http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/...ad,32735_offset,40#372359 |
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Former Member
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THe new water-related project is only about "management"...... i am a geographer, we have already GIS for this kind of stuff.
in a world where computing power are rare and expensive, i prefer to stay focused on projects which can have a big impact soon and who really need a massive computing power. i "vote" C4CW without hesitation !!!!!! it will be over for this summer, keep crunching !!!! |
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in fact, i believe there are too many projects on the WCG........ each project makes a big step with our help, but we don't see projects ended !!! I am here for less than a year.... I have seen 4 new projects, but no one over !
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Matter and Energy is neither created nor destroyed but merely transformed from one form to another... Hmm... I thought I saw or heard that somewhere... now where would that be... Yes, that's it... C4CW transformed to C4SW, then to CFCW, and finally into CFSW ...
 P.S. Proof of the 'concept' coming up 2012Apr16Mo. Stay tuned to world radio K-WCG ... ; |
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alver
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in fact, i believe there are too many projects on the WCG........ each project makes a big step with our help, but we don't see projects ended !!! I am here for less than a year.... I have seen 4 new projects, but no one over ! They do end - just look at the 'completed projects' in the projects list. Personally, I'm in favour of there being as many projects as possible. Different projects appeal to different people (I'm a small-molecule-docking man myself, and I like the medical-research projects most), and the broader the range of projects, the more people will be attracted to WCG as a whole, and the more computing power will be available overall. That's surely a good thing. I find the water projects a bit harder to 'get into', but that's partly just for selfish reasons I suppose: I'm lucky enough to live in a country where water isn't in short supply (yet). But I'm happy to participate for the benefit of others, and to help scientists see how these large scale simulations work in general. That said, I'm really hoping there'll be more cancer projects and similar along at some point, as well.  (previously known as 'proxima' on SETI, UD, distributed folding, FaD, and Rosetta) |
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marvey11
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I agree with alver: the more WCG projects, the better. And with C4CW and HFCC there are two that probably won't be around for too long any more (unless, that is, there are some new targets to be crunched, which of course might happen again
---------------------------------------- ). The same is true for HCC1 once the GPU crunching goes live. |
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Former Member
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In fact, you should understand scientist state of mind !!!!
if you offer me one million dollar for a research program, i will "spend" one million dollars for this research work, even if it doesn't give immediate answer. if you offer me 500tera flops for a research program, i will find problems to use 500 teraflops SCIENTISTS HAVE ALWAYS NEEDS !!!!!!! massive Computing power is very expensive. my scientific interest for WCG is for scientifically valuable projects which could not work without massive computing power. PS : I have only a small computer, so I run my favourite tasks ... if i consider C4CW water as the best project available "scientifically", HCC is a heart project |
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