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rose Seti is 10 times faster with Open CL / Cuda, why not World community Grid ?

Seti is 10 times faster with Cuda, why not World community Grid ?

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Re: Seti is 10 times faster with Cuda, why not World community Grid ?

Why don't you do a search for Cuda and find out?
There are dozens of threads on this. Every one would be a better place to re-ask the same question for the umpteenth time.
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Re: Seti is 10 times faster with Cuda, why not World community Grid ?

Seti is 10 times faster with Cuda, why not World community Grid ? crying


How do you know?

Try doing some crunching here and join in finding answers for the benefit of humanity. You will find it's better than sitting on the sidelines ! confused
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Re: Seti is 10 times faster with Cuda, why not World community Grid ?

Seti is 10 times faster with Cuda, why not World community Grid ?

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Hi zarck,

Actually, WCG opted for much broader usable OpenCL so no GPU computing capable card owner would feel excluded. When: later, maybe sooner, but for sure at a time that even non geekitis suffering potential volunteer would need to do a half way IT degree. There might then be a reason for WCG to board the 6.12 client as it has many scheduling fixes for when GPU and CPU crunching are combined.

Meantime, don't hesitate to warm up your CPU(s) at WCG and employ the GPU at other grids.

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Re: Seti is 10 times faster with Cuda, why not World community Grid ?

I could have swore I saw you post this exact request in another BOINC project thread earlier today when I was randomly checking message boards. I think you will find one of three answers if you merely use the search function in each of the project forums you participate in.

1. We are working on it.
2. GPU's don't work with our type of computing.
3. We don't have the funding/support/expertise/time for GPU.

It's not for every project and the subject has been discussed to death. Suggesting it yet again as if it were a new topic is truly obnoxious.
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Re: Seti is 10 times faster with Cuda, why not World community Grid ?

I have no desire to buy an expensive graphics card myself anyway, and the cheap ones from years ago do not even compute.

For $80 what I did was I just bought me yet another whole 3GHz HT computer (hee hee biggrin )

If and when I buy graphics hardware it will be for the recently new home-3D, and that will probably not be used for heated computing.
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Re: Seti is 10 times faster with Cuda, why not World community Grid ?

Are the current versions of BOINC even capable of handling GPU workunits compiled from OpenCL? I've seen some signs that they can handle CPU workunits compiled from OpenCL (possibly the POEM++ application at Poem@Home), but practically no information on similar use for GPU workunits.

Also, an issue for users to consider: Is your computer room capable of handling the heat from a high-end GPU card without overheating? Mine isn't at present.
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Re: Seti is 10 times faster with Cuda, why not World community Grid ?


3. We don't have the funding/support/expertise/time for GPU.


Hmmm... I seem to recall hearing that even SETI doesn't have the funding for it, currently.

Kind of like the Orbit project, I guess. (and personally, I would rather know about meteors with orbits intersecting earth's than someone/something that sent signals our way a million years ago.)

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Re: Seti is 10 times faster with Cuda, why not World community Grid ?

I could have swore I saw you post this exact request in another BOINC project thread earlier today when I was randomly checking message boards. I think you will find one of three answers if you merely use the search function in each of the project forums you participate in.

1. We are working on it.
2. GPU's don't work with our type of computing.
3. We don't have the funding/support/expertise/time for GPU.

It's not for every project and the subject has been discussed to death. Suggesting it yet again as if it were a new topic is truly obnoxious.


Here ya go.
http://dnahome.cs.rpi.edu/dna/forum_thread.php?id=82
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Re: Seti is 10 times faster with Cuda, why not World community Grid ?

Seti is 10 times faster with Cuda, why not World community Grid ?

How do you know?
I usually come back to this question: How do you know? Many crunchers have made this claim and I don't think anyone has provided any supported proof, although I may have missed it. Who actually knows that any of the WCG applications will actually run faster on a GPU with equal reliability?

Simple logic dictates this statement is wrong because if GPU is faster than CPU, why are we not using GPU chips in place of CPU chips.? Why would Intel/AMD/IBM/Apple spend mega money to develop faster chips when all they have to do is follow your instructions to substitute GPU chips?

I'm not looking for the WCG or CAs to provide the proof, since they are not making the claim. I'm looking for one or more of the quick-draw, opinionated crunchers with some scientific proof that will allow us to think of them, not as a blow-hard but, as an expert. Show me the Math, but I remind you that you cannot use the words 'points' or 'credits' in your proof, since more points does not equate to faster.
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