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BOINC service bogging down system

I am hoping someone can help me with this.

I have a laptop about 1 year old, a Dell Precision M6500 running BOINC. About 3 days ago, I think after a bunch of MS updates came down, I noticed that after about 1-2 hours the system would get unbelievably slow. I checked PerfMon, it was not due to CPU or memory usage. Menus in my browser would become visible like a couple of characters a second! I couldn't figure out what it was. My conclusion was that it was graphics performance backlog, not CPU or memory.

So I used msconfig, turned off all startup stuff, turned off all non-MS services. System ran fine. I slowly turned non-MS services on, and I narrowed it down to the WCG BOINC service. Note the client wasn't even running.

Does anyone know what's going on, or what I can do to fix this? I have a pretty powerful laptop, it would be great to keep using WCG on it, but the system is unusable now with that service running.

Thanks for your help!
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Re: BOINC service bogging down system

Do you only participate in WCG or do you also support other projects? If other projects, are they using your GPU by chance?
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Re: BOINC service bogging down system

No, I just participate in WCG. Also, at one point I stopped the client piece that runs on startup and that did not help the slowdown. It's definitely the service that runs not the piece in the sys tray.
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Re: BOINC service bogging down system

Does the trouble go away as soon as you stop the service? If so, then try running the tray program to change your settings so that they don't interfere with your normal usage.
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Re: BOINC service bogging down system

what projects are you running, ie CEP2 only, how much ram, in the words of johnny 5, "Need input". restart the system, post first 30 or so line of message tab, from start to start of wu
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Re: BOINC service bogging down system

Does the trouble go away as soon as you stop the service? If so, then try running the tray program to change your settings so that they don't interfere with your normal usage.


Yes, once the service is stopped the performance problems go away.

What do you mean change settings so they don't interfere? Keep in mind, the performance problem is there even if the tray program that starts up when Windows starts is not even running. I used msconfig to only run the service, but not run the program actually doing calculations, and the performance is very bad.

Thanks for your reply!
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Re: BOINC service bogging down system

what projects are you running, ie CEP2 only, how much ram, in the words of johnny 5, "Need input". restart the system, post first 30 or so line of message tab, from start to start of wu


I have it running to accept all projects, it is running one per CPU or four tasks. Again, the projects do not have to be running for the performance problem, only the service. I have 8 GB RAM, 8 CPUs. Today I will try uninstalling and reinstalling WCG in case Windows corrupted one of its files or something, and if there is still a problem I will post the message tab results.
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Re: BOINC service bogging down system

I have reinstalled and am running now, waiting to see if the problem comes back. I can say the fan is on heavy already, which is a sign of impending problems, but we'll see.

It is currently running tasks for these projects - 3 for Help cure muscular dystrophy phase 2, 1 for help conquer cancer, 1 for human proteome folding phase 2, 1 for computing for clean water, and 1 for FightAIDS @ Home.

I noticed one thing I have not seen on other PCs, the 7 tasks that are running all have status "Running - high priority". Is this why the computer is getting bogged down eventually?

Here is the text message of the startup:
4/30/2011 7:05:48 AM Starting BOINC client version 6.10.58 for windows_x86_64
4/30/2011 7:05:48 AM log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
4/30/2011 7:05:48 AM Libraries: libcurl/7.19.7 OpenSSL/0.9.8l zlib/1.2.3
4/30/2011 7:05:48 AM Running as a daemon
4/30/2011 7:05:48 AM Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
4/30/2011 7:05:48 AM Running under account boinc_master
4/30/2011 7:05:48 AM Processor: 8 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU X 920 @ 2.00GHz [Family 6 Model 30 Stepping 5]
4/30/2011 7:05:48 AM Processor: 256.00 KB cache
4/30/2011 7:05:48 AM Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 nx lm vmx smx tm2 popcnt pbe
4/30/2011 7:05:48 AM OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Ultimate x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)
4/30/2011 7:05:48 AM Memory: 7.93 GB physical, 15.85 GB virtual
4/30/2011 7:05:48 AM Disk: 238.37 GB total, 127.94 GB free
4/30/2011 7:05:48 AM Local time is UTC -4 hours
4/30/2011 7:05:49 AM No usable GPUs found
4/30/2011 7:05:49 AM World Community Grid URL http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/; Computer ID 1321752; resource share 100
4/30/2011 7:05:49 AM World Community Grid General prefs: from World Community Grid (last modified 31-Dec-1969 19:00:01)
4/30/2011 7:05:49 AM World Community Grid Host location: none
4/30/2011 7:05:49 AM World Community Grid General prefs: using your defaults
4/30/2011 7:05:49 AM Reading preferences override file
4/30/2011 7:05:49 AM Preferences:
4/30/2011 7:05:49 AM max memory usage when active: 4058.09MB
4/30/2011 7:05:49 AM max memory usage when idle: 6087.13MB
4/30/2011 7:05:49 AM max disk usage: 10.00GB
4/30/2011 7:05:49 AM max CPUs used: 7
4/30/2011 7:05:49 AM (to change preferences, visit the web site of an attached project, or select Preferences in the Manager)
4/30/2011 7:05:49 AM Not using a proxy
4/30/2011 7:05:49 AM Suspending computation - initial delay
4/30/2011 7:07:49 AM World Community Grid Restarting task CMD2_1666-1DFC_B.clustersOccur-2Q5H_A.clustersOccur_12_42069_42802_2 using hcmd2 version 640
4/30/2011 7:07:49 AM World Community Grid Restarting task X0000085260105200703231725_2 using hcc1 version 642
4/30/2011 7:07:49 AM World Community Grid Restarting task CMD2_1664-1DHS_A.clustersOccur-1NQT_A.clustersOccur_0_2777_4227_2 using hcmd2 version 640
4/30/2011 7:07:49 AM World Community Grid Restarting task c4cw_target03_108531178_1 using c4cw version 641
4/30/2011 7:07:49 AM World Community Grid Restarting task oi699_00056_12 using hpf2 version 640
4/30/2011 7:07:49 AM World Community Grid Restarting task CMD2_1684-1CJM_A.clustersOccur-1JWY_A.clustersOccur_32_0 using hcmd2 version 640
4/30/2011 7:07:49 AM World Community Grid Restarting task faah20651_ZINC15109874_xh2_xtal_01_0 using faah version 640
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Re: BOINC service bogging down system

On WinXP, I use control-alt-delete and then there is a tab that lets you see in real time which processes are taking up cpu time and how much, and can arrange them from highest to lowest. Does Win7 have this?

Mine used to slow down a bit, until this control-alt-delte clearly showed a background antivirus program which I can now able/disable its schedules and behavior at certain times, now that I know. It used to do things at the windows kernel level or something.

Also I don't know too much about this, but I think that my old 3,000 MHz hyperthreading computers have a much bigger cache. Is it really fast to have just the 256k cache on a newer, 4 cpu computer running 7 or 8 tasks? Does that mean it has 256k cache per CPU (x4)?
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Re: BOINC service bogging down system

My post may have been strange. I guess what I mean is does this 'PerfMon' work like control-alt-delte on Winxp? So that you can see everything in real time? That way you may not even have to stop non ms services. I only see idle process, boinc tasks, and the antiviral when its enabled... rarely a service process taking up 1 or 2 percent of cpu comes up but those are harmless.
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