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robertmiles
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Are you able to try selecting only projects with 64-bit versions of their application programs available? In the past, I've seen signs that for at least some versions of BOINC, all the 32-bit programs that are currently in memory must fit within the 4 GB maximum address space for 32-bit programs.
----------------------------------------As an alternative, you could try selecting only projects with memory requirements low enough that all the workunits in memory at once will fit in less than 4 GB total. Also, if you're a heavy newsgroups user like I am, search the main data directory for your newsreader program for any files approaching 2GB in size if that newsreader is a 32-bit program, or half the size of the amount of memory you have installed if it's a 64-bit program. [Edit 2 times, last edit by robertmiles at May 3, 2011 2:13:16 AM] |
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z2000
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http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web...7l5DIx82L6Fdg&cad=rja
----------------------------------------I was looking at the 6500 specs above, isn't there a graphics card/gpu inside? I can't remember now, but I thought it looked like it either had an ATI or NVIDIA video board. If not, then it's integrated? update (I see from a very early post that Boinc stated that no usable GPUs were found though. So the Boinc settings/personal preferences do not allow to use the GPU for processing, right?)  [Edit 2 times, last edit by z2000 at May 3, 2011 5:35:52 AM] |
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... or there is no usable GPU crunching chip / card in the machine. What is advisable is to disable the GPU on the MoBo if you use a PCI card type card, but given the bogdown being with a considerable delay, would not think that's the source of the issue, and from the jobs listed that ran, not thinking the full 4GB RAM is being used (3.2-3.3 is the limit on a 32 bit OS)... lots would spill over into the swap file... but if there is massive amounts of swapping or writing or rewriting due poor HD performance or state, it could be the source... one would hear that or see that with HD light flickering.
FAIH [Rumor Central], only the Intel Sandy Bridge might have an In-CPU crunching future capable GPU, but drivers not having advanced that far, yet. 2 (inflation subject) Euro cents. --//-- |
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sk..
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A disk check and defrag sounds in order.
Of note might be that a recent WHQL driver causes some GPUs to drop right down to the lowest frequency when the card is not being used intensively, and sometimes when it is! This has the affect of slowing down the GUI, even when CPU usage is far from maxed out. Lockups, timeouts and task failures occur. Rolling back does not fix this. It needs a complete uninstall, F8 reboot, registry clean, another F8 reboot and then a older driver install, followed by disabling all updates. In some cases it also requires that the card be physically removed, and inserted it into a different slot - something you can't do on a laptop. [OT] - you guys are going to have so much fun when you add GPU support; OpenCL means that all sorts of old problems will creep back for every conceivable card that has seen the light of day in the last 5years ;) |
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awalt,
Some more input: Not reread this thread to check if you said so, but are you generally running with the BM loaded? If so there's a few possible issues: 1. The AV/Firewall interferes with the connection between BM (BOINC Manager) and CC (Core Client) 2. You maybe have very many tasks cached. The client would then spend considerable time ''managing'' those. For AV/Firewall I've very explicitly set exceptions for the 5 running components boinc.exe boincmgr.exe boinccmd.exe boinc.scr boinctray.exe --//-- |
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awalt
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OK back home, ready to attack this issue again!
I ran CPU-Z, and without WCG stuff running (disabled through mscconfig), the Core Speed of Core 1. Is at around 3098 MHz. It does pop down briefly to 2100 MHz then pops back up. This is before WCG. Is that right? I also noticed CPU-Z only lets me look at the first core, the drop down to select other cores is greyed out. Is that only for paid versions? It does report 4 cores and 8 threads. So - I enable everything in mscconfig, which turns on WCG service and the startup program, and restart. Within about 2 minutes the CPU core speed is pegged at 400 MHz, about 7% of its speed! That's what is going on, why it's so slow even though CPU and memory have plenty to spare. This is awful, what do you think? |
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z2000
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The boinc startup message that you posted said that it's a cpu at 2 GHz, what does cpu-z mean that it's 3.098 GHz?
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sk..
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If your CPU is at 400MHz then your power settings need to be changed.
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OK back home, ready to attack this issue again! I ran CPU-Z, and without WCG stuff running (disabled through mscconfig), the Core Speed of Core 1. Is at around 3098 MHz. It does pop down briefly to 2100 MHz then pops back up. This is before WCG. Is that right? I also noticed CPU-Z only lets me look at the first core, the drop down to select other cores is greyed out. Is that only for paid versions? It does report 4 cores and 8 threads. So - I enable everything in mscconfig, which turns on WCG service and the startup program, and restart. Within about 2 minutes the CPU core speed is pegged at 400 MHz, about 7% of its speed! That's what is going on, why it's so slow even though CPU and memory have plenty to spare. This is awful, what do you think? In Windows 7 somewhere in config > system > Power Management you can set how the system is to operate. Had to do that on my laptop, else it would switch down to 900Mhz. BOINC sciences run at idle level priority, so the CPU would switch down. There's an option called High Performance, which locks in the maximum hrz. It's rather odd that the OS would do that when BOINC is running and not when BOINC is stopped. |
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sk..
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If the device profile is "Power Saving: Set my profile so that my computer's power settings can take effect," this will allow the system to go into low power mode. I guess this or some customization might be forcing the low power mode to happen, when Boinc is running, after a set time period (default is 20min). Alternatively, and as I said a few days ago, an update might have reset the power settings.
----------------------------------------PS. You can just press start and type in Power to open up the Power Configuration window. [Edit 1 times, last edit by skgiven at May 7, 2011 8:56:09 PM] |
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