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KWSN - A Shrubbery
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Re: Feed back on AMD Phenom II Black Edition

i5 is another CPU that uses hyperthreading. With HT turned on, expect the claim to be 50-100% higher than the granted credits.
The biggest problem with these types of threads is there are far too many variables to do accurate comparisons. Just because a given computer takes a long time crunching doesn't mean it did a lot more work, it just means it's slower. Claimed credits is based on the benchmark and granted credits is based on the amount of work done. I won't go into the details because they're covered in minutiae in other threads and I'd mess something up.
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Re: Feed back on AMD Phenom II Black Edition

fliegenpilz, KWSN - A Shrubbery:
Thanks for each of your response. smile Currently, my submitted-WUs' BOINC_Granted-to-Claimed_ratio (BGCr) stands at about 62% with the worstCase value at 16.8% (See here ); the BGCr that my submitted WUs are getting is both inaccurate and imprecise.

If only 62% at most of the raw performance (associated with the applied benchmarks) is realized into the actual work done in crunching a WU (associated with the granted credit), then any or all of the following must be true of my machine:
• hyperthreads (which current AMD processors don't do);
• bulldozes (coming up from AMD but not in the current AMD processors);
• mis-declares its performance before WCG (if such a thing is possible);

Or, any or all of the following must be true of things outside of my machine:
• The setOfCapabilities that the applied benchmark seeks to characterize and next quantify from the targetPlatform -- is not close enough to the actual setOfCapabilities that WUs actually make use of -- but from which said benchmark a targetPlatform is evaluated against;
• The WUs use generic (else, un-optimized) code that -- does not make good use of the setOfCapabilities that WUs actually make use of -- but from which said setOfCapabilities a submitted-WU is evaluated against;
• The WUs are inaccurately-, else insufficiently-, characterized to facilitate as close as possible a matching of WUs to the platform used by crunchers before the WUs are sent out to the crunchers.

How much of an extent that the AMD Phenom II Black Edition (or any processor for that matter) could be of competitive value to their cruncher-owner rests in no small way to the extent that the full capabilities of the processor is correctly characterized in their particular OS environment vis-a-vis the optimized WU code for that environment. A generic and one-size-fit-all approach will give results that are, well, one-size-that-is-hoped-to-be-acceptable-to-all-crunchers kind of results. biggrin
; Edit1 (2011.04.16Sa.0336UTC): corrected typo errors vis-a-vis the affected content.
; Edit2 (2011.04.16Sa.0346UTC): improved on presentation aspects.
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Re: Feed back on AMD Phenom II Black Edition

Sorry to bump an old thread, but I built a system based on the 1100T and I cannot find a way to measure my core temps. This seems to be a common issue and does anyone have any insight into this?

I am running Windows 7 ultimate, using a Gigabyte GA-870A-USB3 rev 3.1 motherboard.
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Re: Feed back on AMD Phenom II Black Edition

Try RealTemp or CoreTemp but I believe these programs will only give you a reading of the core with the highest temp and not all 4 at the same time.
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Re: Feed back on AMD Phenom II Black Edition

http://uk.gigabyte.com/MicroSite/208/cloud-oc.html
- Shows the temperature as well as some clocking info.
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Re: Feed back on AMD Phenom II Black Edition

I have been using CPUID Hardware monitor and this is what it gives me

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff197/freddosensei/CPUID.png

Cloud OC/Core temp are no better and Real Temp doesn't support my CPU.
We are entering summer here and I have had to drop to 4 processors from 6 otherwise my system cuts out.
I would love to know the coretemps but frustratingly I can't get them.
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Re: Feed back on AMD Phenom II Black Edition

hi
Just built my son a budget gaming system using a quad 955
Found this works well for checking temps. AMD Overdrive it can be found at http://game.amd.com
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Re: Feed back on AMD Phenom II Black Edition

I would love to know the coretemps but frustratingly I can't get them.


I'm pretty sure that these chips only have 1 temp sensor.
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Re: Feed back on AMD Phenom II Black Edition

Hello Ballswinger,

I'm in kinda the same position, I spent two days reading the cpu benchmarks and decided Sandy Bridge and 64 bit Ubuntu Linux would do it for me. The i7's are out of reach of my bank balance, but I crunched last year on an Intel E5800, so an i3-2100 is going to be noticably faster and won't break my bank.. I think the cpu of (my) choice at the mo would be a Sandy Bridge i7, with a GPU in it, but that's only an opinion. And stuff changes quickly.

My current machine is a P4 640 HT Prescott, six years old, but still very capable.
Whatever you get, have fun crunshing.
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Re: Feed back on AMD Phenom II Black Edition

I would love to know the coretemps but frustratingly I can't get them.
Just want to confirm that, as suggested, the Phenom II X6 only has one sensor. Stupid, as you can individually clock these cores, but can't see their individual temps!
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