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kateiacy
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Jan 23, 2010 Post Count: 1027 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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So glad you have a dual-boot machine and could make the comparison across OS's. I don't have Windows on any machines (nor even any Windows media) so couldn't do that myself.
----------------------------------------So a relevant question is, how close is the ratio of HT/no HT benchmarks to the ratio of calculations performed on real WUs with and without HT under Linux? Since C4CW WUs are so consistent, we could use my timings on them to look at this. Let's convert to fraction of a workunit computed by a core in 1 hr.
So this limited data suggests that the sum of the integer and floating pt benchmarks is in the right ballpark for figuring claimed points, but that a weighted average of some kind probably would work better (but the weights probably would be science-specific). By the way, I stumbled on this blog that actually discusses why HT might work well on an Atom! http://www.agner.org/optimize/blog/read.php?i=6 ![]() |
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Sgt.Joe
Ace Cruncher USA Joined: Jul 4, 2006 Post Count: 7847 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I may be looking at this wrong way , but according to your figures, with hyperthreading on you would be doing 1.5642 times as much work as with hyperthreading off.
----------------------------------------(.06845*4)/(.08752*2)=1.5642 Yes ?? No ?? Lack of understanding on my part ?? Cheers
Sgt. Joe
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kateiacy
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I may be looking at this wrong way , but according to your figures, with hyperthreading on you would be doing 1.5642 times as much work as with hyperthreading off. (.06845*4)/(.08752*2)=1.5642 Yes ?? No ?? Lack of understanding on my part ?? Cheers Right -- this whole machine can do 1.5642 times as much work per hour with HT on as with HT off (which is why I keep HT on for running BOINC!). (The Atom probably benefits more from HT than a faster processor would.) But what the benchmarks are trying to assess is calculation speed *per core*, not for the whole machine, because benchmarks are used in determining claimed points for each WU -- not for the composite of work done by the machine. So the 1.56 isn't the relevant ratio for comparing benchmarks. On this computer, *any particular WU* runs about 1.279 times faster with HT off than with it on, and presumably that's what the benchmarks should be trying to get at. ![]() |
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Former Member
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Glad that you had data for WU performance.
Agree that the correspondence (or lack thereof) between benchmarks and actual WU performance is the most interesting question. |
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Former Member
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Until now we/me were under the strong impression that Linux-64 is superior in handling integer calculations and HCC running 2x faster still after the last application revision suggests so. I've got only non-HT quad comparisons on the BOINC 6.10.58 benchmarks and fpops don't even differ by 100, but iops on W7-64 is stable at 6750 and the Linux-64 is 12800, almost 2x higher.
----------------------------------------I'll reserve revision of opinion until the techs/programmers come up with a new compile that matches the ~1:15 hours on Linux-64 for HCC against the W7-64 of 2:40. This science is probably integer exclusive. --//-- edit: PS, on 64 bit, I think HAL said something just before it was happening ;P [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Feb 21, 2011 8:33:52 AM] |
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Former Member
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Is this thread still active? =P
----------------------------------------Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit Intel Core i7 2600K @ 4.8GHz 6.10.58 64 Bit 4652 floating point MIPS(Whetstone) per CPU 12123 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Feb 23, 2011 3:27:08 AM] |
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Bearcat
Master Cruncher USA Joined: Jan 6, 2007 Post Count: 2803 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Did some changes on my harpertown rigs so will update mine:
----------------------------------------Dual quad Xeon E5640 Westmere @2.66, running 15 threads on Win7 64 Whetstone. 2694 Dhrystone 6710 Dual quad Xeon E5472 Harpertown @3.0, (800 FSB) running 8 threads on Ubuntu 64 Whetstone 2939 Dhrystone. 15772 Dual quad Xeon E5420 Harpertown @2.5, (677 FSB) running 8 threads on Ubuntu 64 Whetstone. 2448 Dhrystone. 13274 2010 Mac mini @2.66 running SL Whetstone. 3119 Dhrystone. 6825 Hyperthreading really drops the whetstone if maxing out all threads.
Crunching for humanity since 2007!
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Former Member
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OS: Windows 7 Pro 32bit. CPU: Intel Core i7 CPU 950 @ 3.07Ghz 3.06Ghz Boinc version: 6.10.58 Benchmark results: Number of CPUs: 8 3080 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU 7400 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU ============================== |
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Former Member
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OS: Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard), 64 bit
----------------------------------------CPU: Intel Core 2 T7200 @ 2.0 GHz (mobile CPU for Mac mini 2007 model) Boinc version: 6.2.18 for x86_64-apple-darwin Number of CPUs: 2 2149 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU 7821 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU Same machine, Boinc version: 6.10.58 for x86_64-apple-darwin Number of CPUs: 2 2055 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU 4975 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Feb 26, 2011 4:24:18 PM] |
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gabranth99
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OS VMware Ubuntu 64bit
----------------------------------------CPU Phenom II x6 1075t 3ghz Boinc 6.10.58 for 86_64-pc-linux-gnu Number of CPUs: 2 2188 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU 8681 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU [Edit 1 times, last edit by sparkler99 at Mar 3, 2011 12:57:26 PM] |
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