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Thread: New Beta, C4CW v 6.13 August 24, 2010 |
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Sekerob
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Elapsed time is not same as CPU time. Depends on what core each task runs. I see sometimes many minutes difference in CPU time between same time started tasks and given that the checkpoints are so frequent that all three remained synchronous all the way is like near impossible... a second is enough to hit or miss that bad moment in a crash.
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I assumed that once a checkpoint is reached (and saved to disk) the work done up until that moment can't be lost in any case (well, except a HDD malfunction or something like that), but not due to a OS crash.
BTW, maybe it's possible that the beta WU had something to do with the crash. |
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Sekerob
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No idea how BOINC saves a new result file during checkpoint. Seen countless case of lost progress back to zero after a power out or OS crash, so run with UPS.
----------------------------------------If there is nothing in the result log to support that speculation, how would we know that the Beta task had something to do with this? It could have been a neutrino from space that flipped a bit and caused the reset. The simple reality is that flukes happen which a tinfoil hat wont even thwart off.
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JmBoullier
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I assumed that once a checkpoint is reached (and saved to disk) the work done up until that moment can't be lost in any case (well, except a HDD malfunction or something like that), but not due to a OS crash. If the crash happened while the many files involved in a checkpoint were handled by the application it may well be that the outcome is an inconsistent set of files. Another critical operation is while the result of this process is reflected to the HDD from the system file cache. And last, don't forget that Murphy is always prowling around.  |
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anhhai
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Personally, I have to wonder about the check points. One time my system crashed and when I start it back up, it was restarting an HFCC job. However, it says that I had already did 10+ hrs on it. So it is either I did 10+ hrs on it and it couldn't restore to any of the checkpoints or I got credited for 10 extra hrs of work.
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Former Member
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A snapshot of the properties for that WU at the moment:
CPU time at last checkpoint: 14:09:50 CPU time: 14:11:14 Elapsed time: 14:22:37 Estimated time remaining: 07:15:55 Fraction done: 65.606% Of course that includes 10 phantom hours like in anhhai's case. The 2 completed betas took around 11 hours each, and this is my fastest machine (Core i7-740QM 1.73GHz). The good thing is that they got me a nice bronze badge  For thermal reasons I usually set my laptops (including this one) to use at most 33.33% of CPU time. That's why it's taking so long to finish. Right now there's only that WU running, so I hope for turbo-boost to help me finish it a bit faster. And also lets hope that Murphy leave this one alone already.  |
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Sekerob
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Completely missed it until I saw poor efficiency on my Threadmaster GUI protected laptop having new BOINC science apps run at 80% throttle, but 6.13 moved into production both on Linux and Windows.
----------------------------------------edit: Here's a duh moment... 6.13 was released on the 24th to fix a Linux Graphics issue, never thinking it would be put into production for Windows too... I should have to keep version numbers aligned, i.e. 6.13 is testing these different WU's without change to the science app.
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It finally finished and validated OK.
The crash happened when 97.138232% of the WU was done and restarted from zero! Something to look at by the techs? Or leave it at Murphy's Laws? This is the final log (sorry, it's very loooooooong): <core_client_version>6.10.58</core_client_version> <![CDATA[ <stderr_txt> Commandline = projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/wcg_beta12_lmps_6.13_windows_intelx86 -screen none -in in.wcg.acc -var wcgsteps1 1000 -var wcgsteps2 20000 -var loop 0 -var restart 0 -var rinterval 100 -var ifile in.wcg.acc -var wcgseed 604067 [20:40:49] Percent complete = 0.476168 [20:52:50] Percent complete = 0.952336 [21:04:41] Percent complete = 1.428503 [21:16:38] Percent complete = 1.904671 [21:28:30] Percent complete = 2.380839 [21:40:18] Percent complete = 2.857007 [21:52:24] Percent complete = 3.333175 [22:04:33] Percent complete = 3.809342 [22:16:40] Percent complete = 4.285510 [22:28:48] Percent complete = 4.761678 [22:29:19] Percent complete = 4.766440 [22:41:31] Percent complete = 5.237846 [22:53:35] Percent complete = 5.714014 [23:05:38] Percent complete = 6.190181 [23:17:41] Percent complete = 6.666349 [23:30:06] Percent complete = 7.142517 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Sekerob
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anhhai,
----------------------------------------When in doubt, look in the job properties. It tells of both Elapsed and CPU hours. CPU hours is the only thing on which credit is based. Sometimes the client does not seem to forget the Elapsed time which then in job properties translates into seeing a massive gap. bono_vox, Murphy is on permanent contract and has the skill to be anywhere, everywhere, at a moments notice. It's more of a thing the Berkeley developers might have an interest in. The Elapsed time is used to compute all sorts that impacts caching. The sciences themselves keep track of CPU time, so that is kind of client independent where wallclock is used to record timestamped events and as now seen with CEP2 and C4CW to record when checkpoints were made.
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anhhai
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Sekerob, thx for the info, next time if this happens I will check. However when this happened the last time, I did check how many points I got and I got credited for the extra 10+ hrs.
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