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Re: BOINC underestimating RICE WU's?

Good thought, though my hw hasn't changed but no, not until a couple hours ago and the changed estimates had already occurred by then.
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Re: BOINC underestimating RICE WU's?

Yes, this is true. I am the one who foolishly decided to cache too far ahead and then find WU's were taking longer than was expected according to BOINC d oh

It's a problem that DCF is per BOINC-project and not per application, since there can be large variations in DCF based on which WCG-project you've run before.

But, even if you're running only Rice, and each Rice-wu takes 7 hours +- 1 minute or something, the estimates is still not correct, and this is due to WCG is constantly "adjusting" the estimates... Now this of course makes sence for HCMD2 and so on, there different batches does have variable requirements, and can't always accurately estimate this before starts distributing the work. In Rice on the other hand it makes little sence.

Due to the constant re-adjustments of Rice, I've currently got these various estimated cpu-times on the same computer for unstarted Rice-wu's:
7:00:39
6:46:51
6:53:45

On another computer, the lowest estimate is 6:43:50, meaning if anyone is running with a 10-day-cache with this incorrect estimate they'll have 9.6 hours too much cached work than can be returned by the deadline...

So, even if you're running only Rice, and variations in cpu-time between Rice-wu's is negligible, it's not recommended to use a 10-day cache-size, since some work will be too late. Better would be to use max 9, if you needs to cache lots of Rice-work to reach your badge-target before the end.


Also, there is no late penalty for rice WUs
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Re: BOINC underestimating RICE WU's?

Correct, credit is given until the point when the result is passed to the master database and removed from the live Result Status listings.
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Re: BOINC underestimating RICE WU's?

> "credit is given until the point when the result is passed to the master database"

hmmm... does this mean I could cache 7 days worth of RICE, then shut my computer down for a week, resume the week later, process the queued WUs, return them all after the 10 day report deadline and STILL get the time credit for them all?

I hope the answer is yes, because I'm going away fro a week this Saturday and that's about the amount of work I need to process for my 2 year badge for RICE.

IF they don't get credit, then I'll drain the cache and hope there will still be WUs available on/after March 26/27....
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Re: BOINC underestimating RICE WU's?

Can't guarantee, but yes and not too long. Generally the Techs move results off about 4 days after quorum completed... that would then be the 31st.
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