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GeraldRube
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Don't make ice or buy it--wait until winter and get it from the rivers and ponds then store it underground in sawdust---help save the solar system!!! I'm waiting for icebergs to come this way, to see if the UK tries to sell them back to the Inuit. If not, ice-tea could be on the menu. Maybe they will buy that.I think they would have more common sense than the "developed world"--   |
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David Autumns
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Currently the plant is estimated to take 6 to 9 months to shut down so it will continue to spread radioactive materials for the duration. Then they will be burying it in concrete and maintaining the exclusion zone for many years to come.
----------------------------------------Anyone hear how the Japanese are fighting to bring their "planet destroying" coal, oil and gas power stations back from the brink? No? Strange that  |
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GeraldRube
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Currently the plant is estimated to take 6 to 9 months to shut down so it will continue to spread radioactive materials for the duration. Then they will be burying it in concrete and maintaining the exclusion zone for many years to come. Anyone hear how the Japanese are fighting to bring their "planet destroying" coal, oil and gas power stations back from the brink? No? Strange that They are ordering solar panels from China  |
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sk..
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Australia uses electric and oil to mine coal and then more oil to ship it to China where the coal is used to create the energy to build and run factories that make solar panels.
The solar panel designs are mostly western but the West does not want to do the polluting and it costs more to build solar panels and not pollute. China opted out of taxing itself for polluting the world. These Chinese solar panels are then shipped around the world, using more energy and more oil. Clean energy? |
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David Autumns
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Hi skgiven
----------------------------------------Way back I wanted to know if Solar Cells really lived up to their claims and they do which means they are a viable source of daytime energy attached to the roofs of our already existing buildings providing free energy straight from the Sun I must admit I felt the green guilt when I ordered them from Fremont in California via Ebay . That said they could hardly be lighter. The crunch came when I found I had to pick the parcel up from UK customs and pay import duty twice what I paid for the cells ! My country does not want us to live green just collect taxes from it's hard pressed citizens. A 3"x 6" solar cell really does generate 1.5W by just presenting it towards the sky! Here's some good news (some of that collected tax has unfortunately had to be deployed wisely) http://www.voanews.com/english/news/europe/Ch...rt-of-Goal-120203594.html Dave |
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David Autumns
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/8470256/Ne...oner-than-we-thought.html
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GeraldRube
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/8470256/Ne...oner-than-we-thought.html Not bad going for a Hypothesis not borne out in reality Well when the lights go out in the middle of Winter maybe those fools will come to their senses. |
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David Autumns
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Gerald you know who will get the blame
----------------------------------------It will be those Anti-Nuclear types who have stalled the introduction of the clean, safe and carbon neutral Nuclear Power Stations who are to blame with their look at what happened at Fukushima and Chernobyl (not to mention the Windscale fire and 3 Mile Island and the countless other nuclear mistakes) The ones that keep pointing out what are we going to do with all this high level radioactive waste we keep creating? They are the ones who are the rogues who have caused the lights to go out Nothing to do with us guv and our insane crusade against a trace gas essential for all life on Earth Nothing at all  Dave [Edit 1 times, last edit by David Autumns at Apr 25, 2011 10:44:38 AM] |
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David Autumns
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Here's my closest ex Nuclear Power Station 19 miles away - a tad less if you are a crow. Berkeley nuclear power station, Gloucestershire was the world's first commercial nuclear power station
---------------------------------------- As you can see the pylon in the foreground no longer has any cables attached After 21 years work it has now been defueled and and even now emptied needs to be mothballed until 2074 when it will become someone else's problem who certainly hasn't yet been born http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/gloucestershire/h...ewsid_9294000/9294935.stm Here's another view  Standing on the flood defenses if you turn 180° you can see the 44 year old Olbury still running in the distance. Hopefully someone will see sense and switch it off as promised in June this year.  Along with Hinkley Point they stand by the River Severn where the Tidal Barrage could have been built http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severn_Barrage  You can see the potential tidal range even at this "narrow" point as those posts don't rot down like that while standing in free air How much radioactive material do you get entering the biosphere from a tidal barrage generating 17TWh of electricity (6% of UK) annually? A 360 pan at the same spot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plIpp2-tfEc As you can see, surrounded by England's green and pleasant land You can see them both here on Google Maps http://maps.google.co.uk/?ie=UTF8&ll=51.6...0.264187&t=h&z=13 Hinkley is just a bit further down the river here http://maps.google.co.uk/?ie=UTF8&t=h&....045272,0.132093&z=14 [Edit 2 times, last edit by David Autumns at Apr 25, 2011 3:39:08 PM] |
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sk..
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"Ever since the Blair government’s disastrous 2003 Energy White Paper, which in effect turned its back on replacing coal-fired and nuclear power stations in favour of renewable energy, it has been clear that we would eventually face a 40 per cent shortfall in our electricity supplies".
...and then there was last weeks predicted 40% hike in the UK's price of gas,  |
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