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Re: Not sure how much longer they will be able to keep crunching in the UK

Hats off to Angela Merkel

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12769810

Let us hope that her European peers and leaders from around the globe follow suit

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Just how low can you go to push an agenda?

'Till there is no more money to be made and/or power to obtain. RE: Alibi Gore
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Japan nuclear crisis not to deter UK

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/170787.html

We will have to see about this won't we.

I'll be in Whitehall tomorrow, along with my Eldest Daughter, opposite Downing Street between 2 and 3pm

It will be the first time I have joined in a protest.

If I don't, who will?

If you feel like me and can reach London tomorrow the more the merrier message gets through

Climate Change is [not] quite simply the biggest challenge facing humanity

as the propaganda piece that introduced new nuclear build out in the UK, excluding Scotland, claimed in January 2008

Dave


(note to those for whom it is not clear enough - it was me that added the [not] in the sentence above to make a very serious point. Try your best not to misconstrue)

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Number that have died last week in the Fukushima Nuclear accident = 0
Number that have died from Three Mile Island Nuclear accident = 0
(both officially of same severity)

Number that have died last week falling off of a NASA launchpad = 1
Number that have died last week in GOLD mining accidents = 8
Number that have died last week in coal mining accidents = 41
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97 Ships Stuck in Ice Near St. Petersburg-------- http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/97...st-petersburg/432622.html


...rescued by a nuclear powered icebreaker

The federal agency said 10 icebreakers, including the nuclear-powered Vaigach based in Murmansk, were leading the ships to open water in caravans.
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The only safe nuclear power station is one that stays on the drawing board


anyone care now to disagree?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpSBeYczDFE


There is a greater need for power than windpower can provide. There are not many more landborne areas in the U.S. that have sufficient dependable wind.

TOTAL installed U.S. windpower capacity, as of 2010 = 40 Gigawatts
Capacity of two nuclear powerplants in Texas = 40 Gigawatts

The U.S. has 102 other commercial nuclear plants.

Nuclear power will not be disabled due to protests. It may not be built in the future due to spiraling high cost of construction and regulation.
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You can throw as many air balloons as you like David. Half way what Jaxa has recorded in min / max since 2002 when decline was already well on it's way (that grand omission bit again acting up). So do the good readers favor and match your story of ''recovery" up with a longer record... 3-4-5 times standard deviation, and that in 2D:



How far removed is that current curve from the minimum-maximum measure you think?

Here's 3D, the volumetric bit, based on stacks of data from people with a few notches up on the IQ ladder:



Got a explanation for the massive disparity between 2D, that flimsy thin ice compared to what there used to be not so long ago and today's 3D?

Try throwing something that sticks... manure of any kind... at least the planet would benefit from that since plants are getting too much CO2 and too little of the rest, so farmers have to supplement... of which most ends up in run-off into lakes and seas and oceans where the DEADZONES are expanding and still wheat has lost 8% of it's nutritional value. Now THAT is what you have to explain. How come?

Keep weeding... astrolab gave you a little pointer on spacial considerations that need to be applied and a whole slew of other facts before you can even start to scratch the surface. Leave it to the pros.

The last time the name ''JAXA'' was mentioned in this thread seems to have been Sept.30 of last year lauding the ''half way point to maximum'' as was proposed. Well, it seemed Greenland had a spring affair all winter, and JAXA, follow the yellow line from September and the red from January, is kind of resisting the ''expert'' notions of Global Cooling. Yes it's evident, by Jove, it is.



Global Cooling at it's finest, but only in wishful dreams FACBD.

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PS, the strangest thing is, per SOI there's a super La Nina ongoing... the Oceans sucking up all that extra heat to mask what's really going on...



...whilst the sun continues to ''lie'' low.
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There is a greater need for power than windpower can provide. There are not many more landborne areas in the U.S. that have sufficient dependable wind.

TOTAL installed U.S. windpower capacity, as of 2010 = 40 Gigawatts
Capacity of two nuclear powerplants in Texas = 40 Gigawatts

The U.S. has 102 other commercial nuclear plants.

Nuclear power will not be disabled due to protests. It may not be built in the future due to spiraling high cost of construction and regulation.


Retsof--

I agree about the need for nuclear power. The wind doesn't blow all the time, so you can't reduce capacity for other types of power generation. The media are in a "feeding frenzy" over the nuclear reactor problems in Japan. Between the media and some environmental groups, they have the public scared beyond belief.

There are no safety concerns that would keep me from having a nuclear reactor in my region (of course if it's too close to my house, I might have aesthetic concerns). Of course I don't live on a major earthquake fault. I would think the major perils to a reactor in this area would be tornados, severe electrical storms, and blizzards. I suppose a reactor would stand up fairly well to one of these. Of course if you want to make the reactor impervious to anything, you would have to have it impenetrable to meteorites.

BTW, I keep reading about advantages of a thorium reactor, but I don't think any have been developed yet.

Anyway, I found this chart about radiation to put the things going on in Japan in perspective:

http://blog.xkcd.com/2011/03/19/radiation-chart/

Make sure you also read the disclaimer at the end of the chart.

Night all--

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There you have it we now know what the highest value of taxation you can place on a product before you bring a country to it's knees

The price of petrol at which you have to think about reducing your 81.27p/litre tax burden is £1.33-9

Today that's £6.09 per imp gallon ( £3.69 tax)

This is the equivalent of $8.23 us gallon (3.785 litres)

or €1.54/litre

Instead of the penny rise in duty we were expecting we have a 1p cut in fuel duty (I never thought I would see the day d oh)

Whoohoo

Tomorrow our Petrol will be £1.32-7 a litre

Bargain (Only 80p tax per litre)

Let's burn up the highway hypnotized

Yours Pedal to the Metal Autumns

(hint - for those that just don't get it some of the above is that lowest form of wit with a just a dash of irony)
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Sek 2011 is still inside the envelope of sea ice coverage i.e not extraordinary. It will be inside September 2007 however much you imagine it won't be. There's a good build up of Sea Ice at the North Pole, the normal cycle continues.

retsof you really ought not to believe everything you read

If the tap water in Tokyo, 220Km south, is contaminated with radioactive Iodine from the Fukushima Dai-ichi power plant then obviously someone isn't being forthcoming with the truth. Are they?


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