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Re: Point Awards?

After reading all of the replies, I want to say the main reason I go for the badges, gold in particular, is to know how well I am doing in helping the projects. If I have reached gold on all that I can, I try to concentrate on getting to the one year milestone.

As for this particular project, I see these people in their wheel chairs getting them to move by either pushing on something, or by using their breath to move the way they want to go. I find it hard to imagine being so restricted. Just having to have help to do minor personal things make them not so minor at all. I hope the scientists working with the results are getting closer to making life more pleasant for the MD sufferers.
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Re: Point Awards?

After reading all of the replies, I want to say the main reason I go for the badges, gold in particular, is to know how well I am doing in helping the projects. If I have reached gold on all that I can, I try to concentrate on getting to the one year milestone.


When a new project starts, I commit all of my resources to that project for Gold, then I keep going on that project until it catches up to my next lowest project, then I bring those two together, until the reach the next lowest project.

Although I "GO for the GOLD", once the new project catches up to the oldest, I start sharing the wealth. Then I bring those to along until the catch up to the next.

All of the projects under WCG seem worthy, so I want to contribute to them all equally!

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Re: Point Awards?

All of the projects under WCG seem worthy, so I want to contribute to them all equally!


Well said. As has been mentioned, it really doesn't matter why you're helping crunch towards a goal, just that you are.

While the OP's attitude as expressed may make him seem like the south end of a north bound horse, at the very least he's devoting 90 days to the project. 90 days that otherwise wouldn't have been donated.

I have my own biases towards which projects I think are most deserving (as does everyone), but as long as the computer time is going somewhere, who really cares?
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Re: Point Awards?

the south end of a north bound horse

Brilliant! I'll have to remember that one. Made me Laugh out loud.

To add to the debate on my usual "sitting on the fence" type fashion. If I have not attained a gold badge in a current project then I will favour that project in the short term (currently this project). However, once I get my gold then I look to achieving parity between all projects and crunching equally - I will set myself arbitary goals per project (150, 200, 250 CPU days etc) and try and make them all hit those targets.

Seemed like a fair way to do it I thought?

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Re: Point Awards?

Going back to the point of the thread, I had an unusual points award to one wu yesterday, which seemed inconsistent with the normal points award method (averaged or v. close to claim);

CMD2_ 0005-ARAF.clustersOccur-PTPAA.clustersOccur_ 0_ 0-- 613 Valid 6/1/09 11:23:24 6/4/09 20:33:54 6.07 118.7 / 130.4
CMD2_ 0005-ARAF.clustersOccur-PTPAA.clustersOccur_ 0_ 1-- 613 Valid 6/1/09 11:20:29 6/2/09 10:15:57 4.00 63.7 / 58.5 <-- mine

So my wingman took 50% longer to process the wu, but received double my points, 10% more than claimed, while mine was 10% less than I claimed.

Anyone explain that one?
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Re: Point Awards?

Going back to the point of the thread...

Just as I was enjoying another segway into yet another badges debate devilish
I had an unusual points award to one wu yesterday, which seemed inconsistent with the normal points award method (averaged or v. close to claim);

CMD2_ 0005-ARAF.clustersOccur-PTPAA.clustersOccur_ 0_ 0-- 613 Valid 6/1/09 11:23:24 6/4/09 20:33:54 6.07 118.7 / 130.4
CMD2_ 0005-ARAF.clustersOccur-PTPAA.clustersOccur_ 0_ 1-- 613 Valid 6/1/09 11:20:29 6/2/09 10:15:57 4.00 63.7 / 58.5 <-- mine

So my wingman took 50% longer to process the wu, but received double my points, 10% more than claimed, while mine was 10% less than I claimed.

Anyone explain that one?

The calculation of points is quite complex and is based on a number of factors. Where there is a significant difference between wingpersons, a normalisation process takes place based on past performance. See here:

Normalisation based on past performance

I've seen this happen with me too, so you're not alone. I'm sure that there is a plethora of other possibilities, with many a CA on hand to explain them biggrin
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I've reported this anomaly 2 days ago.

But basically, a job gets an X amount of positions included. Yours by indication of the 4 hours cut off did not manage to get to the 60% mark, so quit (see result log showing an "exceed") and your wingman did do 60% or more at 4 hours, so was let to compute them all. An extra task is created to do the positions for which there was no quorum i.e. the ones your computer did not do. Since we cant see in the log how many each task computed, it's difficult to compare the credit of the 2, but I think(guess) it works on basis of totaling positions completed for both tasks, then divvying up the total credit, taking into account the historic claim per second, which is why the total grant is not matching the total claim... it's more this time. Thing is, there's a portion of positions computed by your wingman that were assumed to take equal effort to those that were computed by both, but in practice that may not be true, they could have been easier on average, hence the grant disparity [still very guess]

Sorry Gordoma, it is not exactly that what you link to.
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Re: Point Awards?

Thanks Sekerob and Gordoma!
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