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BE04642
Advanced Cruncher Belgium Joined: Dec 14, 2004 Post Count: 59 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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To spmazzola: "I am willing to try other settings for chips in the same range 95410??"
----------------------------------------RTFM, you could fry your system! Didn't mean to be rude you know, just be VERY carefull. See if you can find some other O'clocking experiences about your rig. Dowload CPU-Z and look for the manufacturer of your memory. Look for a memory overclocking database or even have more fun and use SPD Tool to totally screw up your memory  The queeste is full of pittfalls. Research is key   |
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spmazzola
Cruncher Joined: Jan 10, 2009 Post Count: 11 Status: Offline |
Which M do you suggest I FR
 Yes ... I was looking for the quick sugar high ... I did get CPU-Z along with MemSet and SetFSB and no, I did not think you were being rude. What I do find rude is the almost complete intolerance for newbie questions on the few OC forums I have vistited ... I may not be cool yet  but I am also sure they were not born that way either .(yes the pun was intended).Thank again for your time, patience, and warnings.  |
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BE04642
Advanced Cruncher Belgium Joined: Dec 14, 2004 Post Count: 59 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I've read so many articles over the years, that I wouldn't know wich one to suggest, but there are some sites I can advise for thourough reading:
----------------------------------------http://www.wimsbios.com/index.jsp http://www.hardocp.com/ http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/#redir http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/ Just a few that pop into my mind (I never put a site into my favorites, if they're any good I'll remember) Never asked any question, just read A LOT of stuff. I know, it's a "killing zone" out there with lots of secrets that are supposed to be shared, but kept by a small elite. Just keep reading and digging and one day... But the first rule of thumb is: know your hardware before you push! Got a list of it? Which M do you suggest I FR Yes ... I was looking for the quick sugar high ... I did get CPU-Z along with MemSet and SetFSB and no, I did not think you were being rude. What I do find rude is the almost complete intolerance for newbie questions on the few OC forums I have vistited ... I may not be cool yet but I am also sure they were not born that way either .(yes the pun was intended).Thank again for your time, patience, and warnings. |
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spmazzola
Cruncher Joined: Jan 10, 2009 Post Count: 11 Status: Offline |
I did start the list and I have found that you can never have enough detail. As I was reading in the formus I did not have enough info about my hardware or simply needed to go look up another term used so it is hard to make real sense of the discussions as it applies to my PC. I am still in the very early sponge stage where I am absorbing a lot and waiting for it to start to gel into a useful base that I can then start to build on.
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BE04642
Advanced Cruncher Belgium Joined: Dec 14, 2004 Post Count: 59 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Don't worry, whe are here to help, so give me whatever info you got out of Sisoft Sandra, SIW, CPU-Z, Memset, SPD Tool 0.61(maybe newer version available) or any other tool that makes sense to you.
----------------------------------------At least: motherboard manufacturer and type, memory manuf./type, cpu type and batch/stepping/revision (socket 478/775 if 775 is it a Cedar Mill -> CPU-Z for info), can you change voltages/memory timings/bus frequencies etc in BIOS Trust me. Been there, done that  And oh yeah, ditch the 1 GB 400 ram (it's DDR and not DDR2 I suppose.) 2 Gigs are (normally) enough. I did start the list and I have found that you can never have enough detail. As I was reading in the formus I did not have enough info about my hardware or simply needed to go look up another term used so it is hard to make real sense of the discussions as it applies to my PC. I am still in the very early sponge stage where I am absorbing a lot and waiting for it to start to gel into a useful base that I can then start to build on. Steve [Edit 1 times, last edit by BE04642 at Jan 26, 2009 11:51:37 AM] |
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courine
Master Cruncher Capt., Team In2My.Net Cmd. HQ: San Francisco Joined: Apr 26, 2007 Post Count: 1794 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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The real question is not so much the best guide for crunching, as the word "best" could be seen in many different ways. In some ways best is speed. To others its cost to FLOP/Sec ratios. But I never forget the most important aspect of all, courage. The spec there is no measure for.
---------------------------------------- Come witness the spectical that is truely yours, on this edition of WCG Wide World of Sports. Don't worry, whe are here to help, so give me whatever info you got out of Sisoft Sandra, SIW, CPU-Z, Memset, SPD Tool 0.61(maybe newer version available) or any other tool that makes sense to you. At least: motherboard manufacturer and type, memory manuf./type, cpu type and batch/stepping/revision (socket 478/775 if 775 is it a Cedar Mill -> CPU-Z for info), can you change voltages/memory timings/bus frequencies etc in BIOS Trust me. Been there, done that And oh yeah, ditch the 1 GB 400 ram (it's DDR and not DDR2 I suppose.) 2 Gigs are (normally) enough. I did start the list and I have found that you can never have enough detail. As I was reading in the formus I did not have enough info about my hardware or simply needed to go look up another term used so it is hard to make real sense of the discussions as it applies to my PC. I am still in the very early sponge stage where I am absorbing a lot and waiting for it to start to gel into a useful base that I can then start to build on. Steve     [Edit 2 times, last edit by courine at Jan 26, 2009 6:40:32 PM] |
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BE04642
Advanced Cruncher Belgium Joined: Dec 14, 2004 Post Count: 59 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Well said 'courine', but don't forget the most important factor of them all...
----------------------------------------Knowledge (and ofcourse money could help a bit, but then you would have to posess the knowledge how to spend it best  )To 'spmazzola': keep on absorbing, but don't be shy to give some early info even if it's not 100% accurate.  |
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courine
Master Cruncher Capt., Team In2My.Net Cmd. HQ: San Francisco Joined: Apr 26, 2007 Post Count: 1794 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Cora's Low Power Recipe:
----------------------------------------Take: Shuttle SG33G5 Socket 775 Barebone - Intel G3...TA, 250 Watt Power Supply Add: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Processor HH80562PH05...EM, Socket 775, Processor Blend: Western Digital Cavair GreenPower 500GB Hard Drive - 7200, 16MB, SATA-300, OEM Fold: Corsair Dual Channel TWINX 2048MB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz E.P.P. Memory Stir in OS and optical drives to taste. The base cost is under 500usd shipped and it has a 30usd rebate on the ram. So a Linux system with a cheap dvd drive would still come in under 500usd complete. If this is the case, then the total power savings at 5usd/mo would pay for the unit in under 4 yrs. But in relationship to the q6600 here, it would lean towards a 7usd. I just cant vouch for the build, as i dont have one. [Edit 4 times, last edit by courine at Jan 27, 2009 5:59:16 AM] |
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spmazzola
Cruncher Joined: Jan 10, 2009 Post Count: 11 Status: Offline |
I found a wiki link that has some specific client settings ... looks like a good place to start if you do not want to OC.
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twilyth
Master Cruncher US Joined: Mar 30, 2007 Post Count: 2130 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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I didn't see any mention of speedfan, prime95, orthos or some other stuff that would be useful. Speedfan especially
----------------------------------------It is pretty rare to burn out the newer processors - I think this applies to the P4 but I won't swear to it. There are sensors built into the chip that will shut it down if it gets too hot. Probably the only way to do it would be to overvolt too much. It helps if you have a motherboard designed for overclocking since it will usually save you the trouble of having to clear the CMOS (bios memory - although cmos really stands for complementary metal oxide semiconductor and really applies most modern semiconductors whether memory, cpu, etc). But it sounds like yours has that covered - +1 for Dell i guess. Also note that when reading forums, AMD and Intel chips do not OC the same way (except for the latest i7 chips). AMD has an integrated memory controller so there is technically no FSB. And the FSB is normally where you start overclocking and then branch out from there. WCG apps are mostly cpu intensive so you will get the biggest boost from a faster cpu. Memory tweaks can help, but you'll get more bang from boosting the clock speed.   |
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