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Replicated SEVEN times - now Ten - Now Too Late!!!

So far this WU has been sent to six other as well as me. I sent a finished WU, most of the other errored.......

Project Name: The Clean Energy Project
Created: 05/12/08
Name: E000011_846A_00021d008
Minimum Quorum: 2
Initial Replication: 2



Result Name Status Sent Time Time Due /
Return Time CPU Time (hours) Claimed/ Granted BOINC Credit
E000011_ 846A_ 00021d008_ 7-- In Progress 21/12/08 21:22:25 24/12/08 09:43:58 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
E000011_ 846A_ 00021d008_ 6-- Error 21/12/08 17:41:21 21/12/08 21:06:57 3.32 30.2 / 0.0
E000011_ 846A_ 00021d008_ 5-- No Reply 19/12/08 20:44:34 21/12/08 17:40:00 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
E000011_ 846A_ 00021d008_ 4-- Error 19/12/08 04:24:01 19/12/08 20:22:35 2.40 44.4 / 0.0
E000011_ 846A_ 00021d008_ 3-- No Reply 16/12/08 18:52:17 19/12/08 04:21:39 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
E000011_ 846A_ 00021d008_ 2-- Error 16/12/08 09:56:39 16/12/08 18:47:46 2.46 34.2 / 0.0
E000011_ 846A_ 00021d008_ 0-- No Reply 09/12/08 06:25:33 16/12/08 06:25:33 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
E000011_ 846A_ 00021d008_ 1-- Pending Validation 09/12/08 06:20:59 10/12/08 08:30:24 12.47 143.4 / 0.0
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Re: Replicated SEVEN times

Still no one else has managed to complete it -

Result Name Status Sent Time Time Due /
Return Time CPU Time (hours) Claimed/ Granted BOINC Credit
E000011_ 846A_ 00021d008_ 10-- In Progress 25/12/08 12:33:54 27/12/08 23:35:50 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
E000011_ 846A_ 00021d008_ 9-- Error 25/12/08 02:08:11 25/12/08 12:27:00 2.66 34.5 / 0.0
E000011_ 846A_ 00021d008_ 8-- Error 24/12/08 09:44:49 25/12/08 01:08:06 2.80 43.4 / 0.0
E000011_ 846A_ 00021d008_ 7-- No Reply 21/12/08 21:22:25 24/12/08 09:43:58 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
E000011_ 846A_ 00021d008_ 6-- Error 21/12/08 17:41:21 21/12/08 21:06:57 3.32 30.2 / 0.0
E000011_ 846A_ 00021d008_ 5-- No Reply 19/12/08 20:44:34 21/12/08 17:40:00 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
E000011_ 846A_ 00021d008_ 4-- Error 19/12/08 04:24:01 19/12/08 20:22:35 2.40 44.4 / 0.0
E000011_ 846A_ 00021d008_ 3-- No Reply 16/12/08 18:52:17 19/12/08 04:21:39 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
E000011_ 846A_ 00021d008_ 2-- Error 16/12/08 09:56:39 16/12/08 18:47:46 2.46 34.2 / 0.0
E000011_ 846A_ 00021d008_ 0-- No Reply 09/12/08 06:25:33 16/12/08 06:25:33 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
E000011_ 846A_ 00021d008_ 1-- Pending Validation 09/12/08 06:20:59 10/12/08 08:30:24 12.47 143.4 / 0.0
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Re: Replicated SEVEN times

10 replications, no one stayed more than 11 sec

E000031_ 476A_ 00042o00o_ 9-- In Progress 12/25/08 15:32:14 12/28/08 03:17:05 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
E000031_ 476A_ 00042o00o_ 8-- Error 12/25/08 05:12:56 12/25/08 15:31:15 0.09 1.9 / 0.0
E000031_ 476A_ 00042o00o_ 7-- Error 12/24/08 23:35:21 12/25/08 18:28:36 0.09 1.6 / 0.0
E000031_ 476A_ 00042o00o_ 6-- Error 12/24/08 18:01:01 12/25/08 04:50:12 0.10 1.6 / 0.0
E000031_ 476A_ 00042o00o_ 5-- Error 12/24/08 11:31:26 12/24/08 23:28:36 0.11 1.7 / 0.0
E000031_ 476A_ 00042o00o_ 4-- Error 12/24/08 00:47:12 12/24/08 11:28:40 0.10 1.6 / 0.0
E000031_ 476A_ 00042o00o_ 3-- No Reply 12/22/08 16:58:10 12/24/08 17:57:54 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
E000031_ 476A_ 00042o00o_ 2-- Error 12/22/08 00:47:15 12/22/08 16:52:15 0.10 1.5 / 0.0
E000031_ 476A_ 00042o00o_ 0-- No Reply 12/20/08 12:37:40 12/24/08 00:37:40 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
E000031_ 476A_ 00042o00o_ 1-- No Reply 12/16/08 05:06:33 12/22/08 00:37:48 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
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Re: Replicated SEVEN times

10 replications, no one stayed more than 11 sec

biggrin So we are not wasting much time.
blushing At least we are acquiring a big list of problem work units for the project scientists to look at when they come back from Christmas vacation.

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Re: Replicated SEVEN times

10 replications, no one stayed more than 11 sec
....except mine lasted over 12 hours......
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Re: Replicated SEVEN times

Now it says Too Late!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was not too late.....everyone else was!!!!!!

Project Name: The Clean Energy Project
Created: 05/12/08
Name: E000011_846A_00021d008
Minimum Quorum: 2
Initial Replication: 2



Result Name Status Sent Time Time Due /
Return Time CPU Time (hours) Claimed/ Granted BOINC Credit
E000011_ 846A_ 00021d008_ 10-- Error 25/12/08 12:33:54 26/12/08 02:59:43 3.71 39.2 / 0.0
E000011_ 846A_ 00021d008_ 9-- Error 25/12/08 02:08:11 25/12/08 12:27:00 2.66 34.5 / 0.0
E000011_ 846A_ 00021d008_ 8-- Error 24/12/08 09:44:49 25/12/08 01:08:06 2.80 43.4 / 0.0
E000011_ 846A_ 00021d008_ 7-- No Reply 21/12/08 21:22:25 24/12/08 09:43:58 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
E000011_ 846A_ 00021d008_ 6-- Error 21/12/08 17:41:21 21/12/08 21:06:57 3.32 30.2 / 0.0
E000011_ 846A_ 00021d008_ 5-- No Reply 19/12/08 20:44:34 21/12/08 17:40:00 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
E000011_ 846A_ 00021d008_ 4-- Error 19/12/08 04:24:01 19/12/08 20:22:35 2.40 44.4 / 0.0
E000011_ 846A_ 00021d008_ 3-- No Reply 16/12/08 18:52:17 19/12/08 04:21:39 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
E000011_ 846A_ 00021d008_ 2-- Error 16/12/08 09:56:39 16/12/08 18:47:46 2.46 34.2 / 0.0
E000011_ 846A_ 00021d008_ 0-- No Reply 09/12/08 06:25:33 16/12/08 06:25:33 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
E000011_ 846A_ 00021d008_ 1-- Too Late 09/12/08 06:20:59 10/12/08 08:30:24 12.47 143.4 / 0.0
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Re: Replicated SEVEN times

someone got too late after 36 hours of computing and lost 540 claimed points crying .. luckily my WU errored just after 0.3 hours. sad Only 9 replications though, everything may change :)

E000035_ 966A_ 00045n00k_ 8-- In Progress 12/27/08 06:17:46 12/29/08 17:56:00 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
E000035_ 966A_ 00045n00k_ 7-- Error 12/25/08 20:29:34 12/27/08 12:02:32 0.30 4.7 / 0.0
E000035_ 966A_ 00045n00k_ 6-- Error 12/24/08 15:43:39 12/25/08 19:00:34 0.25 4.8 / 0.0
E000035_ 966A_ 00045n00k_ 5-- Aborted 12/23/08 10:05:56 12/24/08 04:17:27 0.24 4.9 / 0.0
E000035_ 966A_ 00045n00k_ 4-- Error 12/23/08 06:03:38 12/24/08 17:38:13 0.28 4.3 / 0.0
E000035_ 966A_ 00045n00k_ 3-- Too Late 12/20/08 15:43:38 12/23/08 18:30:48 36.77 546.0 / 0.0
E000035_ 966A_ 00045n00k_ 2-- Error 12/18/08 23:39:03 12/20/08 14:12:53 0.29 4.6 / 0.0
E000035_ 966A_ 00045n00k_ 1-- Error 12/16/08 10:05:38 12/18/08 23:28:01 0.51 5.6 / 0.0
E000035_ 966A_ 00045n00k_ 0-- No Reply 12/16/08 10:04:16 12/23/08 10:04:16 0.00 0.0 / 0.0


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Re: Replicated SEVEN times - now Ten - Now Too Late!!!

That's why I aborted all of my WUs and will wait until the bugs are fixed. I lost hundreds of points because most if the WUs were 36 hours and when completed, I got errors then it was too late to submit. This project is worth crunching for but until the bugs are fixed, I'll pass.
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Re: Replicated SEVEN times - now Ten - Now Too Late!!!

That's why I aborted all of my WUs and will wait until the bugs are fixed. I lost hundreds of points because most if the WUs were 36 hours and when completed, I got errors then it was too late to submit. This project is worth crunching for but until the bugs are fixed, I'll pass.


It is a main reason why I'm asking to WCG review your rules and criterias to ditribute points and account results for crunchers.

In my opinion any work done and finished as error (when 100% completed) and invalid results, need be valored in equal basis of valid results.

The effort to discover the result situation was the same in most of cases (in errors or problematics work units that finished as erros or invalid manytime the effort is bigger than)

We can't select the right works to crunch from WCG, on the contrary, and in this way we don't be misincentivated in returned this errors or invalids results, once we just contributed with our time spent and effort to crunch.

So, I wonder if WCG could review this rules and criterias, and update it for one more estimulated. I saw it happens with some distinct criterias to distribute points, in some Beta tests results. Why not extend it for all projects results ? thinking coffee
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Re: Replicated SEVEN times - now Ten - Now Too Late!!!

In my opinion any work done and finished as error (when 100% completed) and invalid results, need be valored in equal basis of valid results.
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So, I wonder if WCG could review this rules and criterias, and update it for one more estimulated. I saw it happens with some distinct criterias to distribute points, in some Beta tests results. Why not extend it for all projects results ? thinking coffee

GIBA,
For an "old" project running steadily for months error and invalid WUs are normally produced by machines with problems (e.g. HW, SW) that need to be fixed by their owners, and crediting rules have been made to motivate these owners to do what they have to do.

For a new project with teething problems WCG techs are usually adapting the rules behind the scene to make sure that participants are not penalized for problems which are not their fact, until the new project is finally running steadily. These manual corrections may take time but they usually happen.

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