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Thread: New Beta project WU's are crunching in WCG... |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Hold on there, i've been here nearly 3 years and you barely 3 weeks and already scrunched up 4 of them.... cant tell you anything more without risking to loose my polyester dining fittings.... saves on the floss though  Hey, what about a deal...??? You arrange for me 112 ß-WU's and 24 hrs. of work for AC@H, and you'll get a silk dining fitting from me... How about that...???  |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
I have a beta FAAH work unit on my PPC Mac and its in a loop and won't go past 12%. Should I let it loop for a while and see what happens ? I got tired of it looping so I stopped boinc and restarted it. It now went past 12% but now the boinc process, that is run by the boinc_master user, is not responding. I'm betting that this will end up hung like the old faah and dddt work units.  Well, it finished without error. When it was done I looked and the boinc service was still "not responding" so I had to restart boinc.  |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
I picked up a bunch of beta WUs on a laptop but they didn't show any estimated time to completion (they took about an hour each). I didn't pay much attention until last night when I saw BOINC crunching other projects with WUs due in a week or so instead of the WCG wus due today and I had to suspend every project to firce BOINC to run the beta wus.
I'll probably miss the deadline with a few of them. Is there anything I can due to ensure that BOINC (5.10.45) does a better job of respecting deadlines? |
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breathesgelatin
Advanced Cruncher Joined: Aug 5, 2006 Post Count: 117 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Adywebb has sooooooo many batches, and I can never ever get four of them anyway.... (Human Protenome Folding, Help Defeat Cancer, Genome Comparison and Help Cure Muscular Dystrophy)... ] You should be able to get the Help Cure Muscular Dystrophy badge when that project returns. Right now it's estimated to return in August/September.  |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Adywebb has sooooooo many batches, and I can never ever get four of them anyway.... (Human Protenome Folding, Help Defeat Cancer, Genome Comparison and Help Cure Muscular Dystrophy)... ] You should be able to get the Help Cure Muscular Dystrophy badge when that project returns. Right now it's estimated to return in August/September. But..., but..., but that's still soooooo looooong... |
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Sekerob
Ace Cruncher Joined: Jul 24, 2005 Post Count: 20043 Status: Offline |
B.S] Astral Walker
----------------------------------------There was a mishap at WCG when they first send out those beta jobs, but "didn't show any estimated time to completion" is strange. Simply crunch them. No problem if they are a bit late. It's interesting in that BOINC always tries to clear work 24 hours before deadline, prioritizing accordingly, so think this could be a bug to resolve. Presume your client is set to always crunch or work according schedule.
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GIBA
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I picked up a bunch of beta WUs on a laptop but they didn't show any estimated time to completion (they took about an hour each). I didn't pay much attention until last night when I saw BOINC crunching other projects with WUs due in a week or so instead of the WCG wus due today and I had to suspend every project to firce BOINC to run the beta wus. I'll probably miss the deadline with a few of them. Is there anything I can due to ensure that BOINC (5.10.45) does a better job of respecting deadlines?This an interisting problem once Astral Beta's queue appear be bigger than your capacity to process all WU's until the deadline to completion. I ask to WCG advisors or techs: There are safe ways to transfer WU's from one computer to other ? I know that is possible transfer all Boinc file in Windows (I did it one time last year...), but I dont't know if it will be a good idea once we can lost some data. Maybe more experts crunchers could answer it... But, I think that it will be very useful in order to avoid lost deadlines in cases like Astral mentioned... Just to illustrate the possibility of this ideia: I have six core duo machines ready to crunch Beta's, but are running other projects and whitout any Beta's in its queues, but at sametime I have one P4 Solo machine with 7 Beta WU's in a queue awaiting for crunch one by one... Giba. 
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Sekerob
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This simply should not have happened, a fluke one should call it.
----------------------------------------No, you can move a whole installation with appropriate care but not single work units. Way too complex to entertain and if I knew how to do it, I'd not tell. It's a guarantee for the next 'Help, Anyone'. GIBA, if you wish, open a thread in the chat room on this venture. This thread is now on 20 different tracks. thanks.
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Thanks for all the info. Here is what the screen on my laptop currently looks like. You can see the lack of any estimated time to completion for uncrunched WUs.
---------------------------------------- Edit: This laptop crunches 24/7 (even when I took it on the bus to work with me  )[Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Apr 18, 2008 3:07:51 PM] |
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Saenger
Advanced Cruncher Germany Joined: Dec 28, 2005 Post Count: 66 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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At 1 hour a piece you'll be needing allot of these Babies to accumulate 14 days for the  Badge  Popping an idea after a few fine glasses of Vino Rosso Siciliana, Doc, wondered why these 'special' projects don't have a member or host restriction of e.g. 10 a day to get the widest spread of machines testing them. Statistically it appears more interesting to me to get 10 each from 200 machines over 60 from just 30-40 machines. If you add the code to BOINC - we will use it :-) We actually do get a pretty broad sample that has been useful for allowing us to find the most significant errors (with the help of the members reporting back their experiences). The Code has to be somewhere in BOINC, as I repeatedly get some of this messages from different projects: Milkyway: Do 17 Apr 2008 14:22:45 CEST|Milkyway@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 6751 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks RalphDo 17 Apr 2008 14:22:50 CEST|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks Do 17 Apr 2008 14:22:50 CEST|Milkyway@home|Message from server: No work sent Do 17 Apr 2008 14:22:50 CEST|Milkyway@home|Message from server: (reached per-host limit of 20 tasks) Do 17 Apr 2008 10:16:14 CEST|ralph@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 15 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks LatticeDo 17 Apr 2008 10:16:19 CEST|ralph@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks Do 17 Apr 2008 10:16:19 CEST|ralph@home|Message from server: No work sent Do 17 Apr 2008 10:16:19 CEST|ralph@home|Message from server: (reached daily quota of 2 results) Do 17 Apr 2008 09:21:00 CEST|The Lattice Project|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 6659 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks Artificial IntelligenceDo 17 Apr 2008 09:23:15 CEST|The Lattice Project|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks Do 17 Apr 2008 09:23:15 CEST|The Lattice Project|Message from server: No work sent Do 17 Apr 2008 09:23:15 CEST|The Lattice Project|Message from server: (reached per-host limit of 20 tasks) Sa 12 Apr 2008 22:30:51 CEST|Artificial Intelligence System|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 53134 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks Sa 12 Apr 2008 22:30:56 CEST|Artificial Intelligence System|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks Sa 12 Apr 2008 22:30:56 CEST|Artificial Intelligence System|Message from server: No work sent Sa 12 Apr 2008 22:30:56 CEST|Artificial Intelligence System|Message from server: (reached daily quota of 2 results ) I've got another question: How are BOINC credits calculated for this 1h WUs? I've seen in my results a variation of Credits for the same WU. I'd expect such, as they obviously crunch 1h on all machines, thus an old P4 should get less points than my C2D and I should get less than some even newer ones. I've seen computers getting more credit than claimed, I get considerably less than I claim. As I use a standard client (5.10.45) under Linux (ubuntu 7.10-64), I don't overclaim. There are of course some reasons to give less as I claim:
I'd like to know which one fits here. I don't expect to get all work credited properly in beta, it's not called beta nothing |
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