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39er
Cruncher Canada Joined: Aug 10, 2006 Post Count: 28 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Reading recent BOINC news here on the forum, I saw that a new version of BOINC got introduced. I am running version 5.4.11 and I wonder if this version is still acceptable to the WCG requirements. From my vantage point it runs ...and runs. Accordingly it must be still good. However let me know if it absolutely must be changed to a newer version.
On another topic: The PC were the WCG projects are running on has a dual CPU and I suspect that it may count as 2 cpus for purposes of points calculation. However my profile shows 3 cpus which is incorrect. I used to run, some time ago, 2 PCs one of which runs on Windoze. I removed WCG processing from the latter machine. Now only the Linux machine with 2 cpus does all the work..and it runs...and runs... My question really is who do I ask to amend the profile. It's not critical though. Lastly, who wants some snow. We got already 3.60 m of that stuff and there is more on the way.  |
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Sekerob
Ace Cruncher Joined: Jul 24, 2005 Post Count: 20043 Status: Offline |
It's like going to a museum and signing your name in the guestbook.... the device will be forever there, but the current view in the device manager and device statistics only show currently active devices.
----------------------------------------As for your 5.4.11, don't change what's *not* broken, but if you run 5.10 you get more points due to a more stable benchmark and many features like additional buffering, scheduled networking, scheduled crunching and much more. You can send me some snow. A good foot thick would be nice, but sadly it will melt in 24 hours same as it did last time. The upside is, once it melts it will help to water the plants and trees and fields that are parched.
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39er
Cruncher Canada Joined: Aug 10, 2006 Post Count: 28 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Thank you Sekerob,
That's good to know. My boss used to say that: don't fix what's not broken. However, should I want to change to a new version, do I simply extract the new version into the directory where BOINC is running and run the manager to get things going or are there additional steps like shutting the old version down. Currently I am running boinc as a "personal install" in my home directory. It is somewhat limited I agree but I left it as is from the original trial on Linux. -39er |
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Sekerob
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Hi,
----------------------------------------Simply fetch the new 5.10 version and run the install. It will find the old wherever it is (i think, but you can choose the path if need be), will stop it if still running and put things in the right place and offers to restart when done and continue where left off.
WCG
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Former Member
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I once uninstalled an older BOINC before intalling a newer version, only to find that the 'Device Installations' in my profile got increased by 1, even though it was the same machine.
Is there a way to fix this? What exactly should I have done to prevent this to happen? |
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Sekerob
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Fear not. By uninstalling you removed the historic record by which WCG could identify the device.
----------------------------------------You write ónce´. A new verification process was put in place to recognise even devices long as 5 pieces of machine data are the same, but once done, it´s irreversable. Maybe that changes if WCG becomes fully BOINCed.
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A new verification process was put in place to recognise even devices long as 5 pieces of machine data are the same I didn't get this 5 pieces stuff. Am I missing something. |
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Former Member
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Hello bijoalex,
----------------------------------------When the BOINC Installer updates BOINC on a computer, it simply replaces the old BOINC version with the new version. This does not register a new device on the WCG website. When you uninstall the old BOINC and then install the new BOINC, it does register as a new device on the WCG website. The normal BOINC server software allows a member to merge the new device id with the old device id. However, the WCG website was originally a copy of the UD software used by grid.org, which always assigne a unique id to each registration and never merged or deleted them. The BOINC code was added to this when WCG added BOINC. As a result, the merge function does not work on the WCG website. Someday, after we drop the UD client, we may find the time to rewrite the server code and enable the merge function. But that will have to wait until project programming gives our programmers a big chunk of free time. Have I answered your question? Lawrence Added: 5 pieces. knreed has tried to identify computers getting new versions of BOINC other than through a simple update and has added some code to treat them as a simple update, without creating a new registration id number [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Mar 10, 2008 6:46:30 AM] |
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Sekerob
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A new verification process was put in place to recognize even devices long as 5 pieces of machine data are the same I didn't get this 5 pieces stuff. Am I missing something. hmmm, wrote it into the BOINC wiki but never into the WCG Start Here forum FAQ, so here goes after that omission being corrected: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/...16521&offset=0#130260 It's 5 pieces of machine information plus the member name of course.
WCG
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Former Member
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A new verification process was put in place to recognize even devices long as 5 pieces of machine data are the same Ah, now I got it. I think this piece of code might have been added after I went through the uninstall process. I used to have both UD client and BOINC (5.8.15 obtained from BOINC website) crunching for WCG in the same machine. When I had a resource crunch in my machine, I uninstalled BOINC client in April 2007. As UD client is planned to be dropped shortly, last month I removed UD client and installed the WCG distributed BOINC client 5.10.30 How does the code verify when it comes to machines in organizations where a dynamic IP allocation is setup. |
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