Yes, but if you start from the download page Sek and you are'nt logged in, you have to log in. Think that might be confusing some peeps with the asterisks and all.

If people dont click on "Already Registered ? Click here to log in" if they are existing members, but feel they have to fill out the info below that, because it says "Fields marked with a * are required" and then click "Is this name available ?", or "continue" at the bottom of the page, it may seem to them that their existing member info has been rejected, when it is in fact ok.

No problem Sek.

I offer many thanks to mitrichr, Advanced Cruncher. Without his questions to start this thread, where would we be. Looking back at the beginning, one can repeat those questions - "Why so few WCG crunchers using the BOINC agent?" and "why is it taking so long for WCG crunchers to migrate to BOINC?" Lawrence Hardin, Community
Advisor answered the first question and it appears that most of the remaining responses in the entire thread might have been, at a minimum, indirect responses to the second question.

For my part I provided six paragraphs of informational comments which were termed, by me, as "UD swan songs" and I stated indirectly that they applied to me. However, my comments were deemed to be false concerns. No other comments in this thread were labeled "concerns". No other comments in this thread were labled "false".

1. I stated that UD ran on some of the older OS's until last year - I had several machines running NT 4.0 and UD. BOINC would never run right on 4.0. My point-by-point summary is that I have asked friends and relatives for their old machines for WCG processing. Their donations to WCG and me do not clutter up landfills. Their donations to WCG and me serve a useful purpose. However, I am not spending my money to upgrade these computers to add newer OS's, to add memory, to add large drives, etc. just to compute for WCG using BOINC. I purposely migrated to WCG from SETI and other number crunchers because I could get UD to run on 300MH, 32MB Mem, 2GB HD computers. So, as long as these machines are currently doing USEFUL number crunching I will not put them out to pasture.

2. I stated that when BOINC picked up SETI, many of the add-ons were no longer available. Some add-ons have been added for BOINC/SETI but not as many as previously existed. Left bad taste in my mouth. This concern was labled as false by a Community Advisor.

So, if bitter is the false taste in my mouth, is the true taste in my mouth sweet, sour, or salty. Guess I'll have to ask my Community Advisor which taste, if any, is now in my mouth.

3. I stated that UD behaves at 60% throttle of CPU. BOINC (oink) pigs out CPU causing my machines to run hotter. I had to put process throttles in to limit CPU for BOINC processes. My Community Advisor stated that "BOINC has a throttle, too. WCG set it to 60% by default."

First, using LAVALYS Everest software,the CPU column of task manager, and process throttling software, it appeared that WCG was actually using about 75% of the CPU even when set at the default limit of 60%. Second, BOINC's CLIMATE states on their project preferences page that their preference values will override preference values of other projects. Is this true? Third, if my machine is running at 35% CPU and I invoke WCG's default of 60%, will the CPU usage go to 95%???

4. One item from me concerned posting of results from Memory to a HD on a periodic basis. I concede that this item is really not relevant to any discussion concerning UD or BOINC.

5. One item from me concerned BOINC chatter and it was described by the Community Advisor as a false concern.

There were many persons who posted items in this thread concerning what was probably felt to be unsolicited or unwarranted communication between BOINC projects and the Internet. Much discussion was also held about Zone Alarm and Alerts. Were all of these discussions also false concerns?

6. One item from me talked about stable unsupported OS's. I currently use quite a few unsupported OS's and the point that I stated is that I don't care what is on the server end of WCG.

We have been told by bbover3, World Community Grid Admin, that "The BOINC migration decision was made for us by UD." bbover3 referred to the fact that UD said that they would no longer be supporting the UD software in 2004. Is it possible that WCG can continue to run the old pre-2005 unsupported SERVER version of UD???

Be aware of the fact that Sekerob, Community Advisor, advises that the BOINC migration decision was made to provide a better volunteer experience for all World Community Grid members. Does a migration to BOINC have anything to do with keeping volunteers happy?

Some other items for consideration that were eloquently stated in this thread (by others) are the complexity (djy100) of BOINC, the fact that BOINC is appallingly badly documented (Kremmen), and that WGC relies too heavily (legg) on users being able to find all of their answers in forums.

It was pointed out by a Community Advisor that it seems that I never found out how to change my BOINC preferences and that I could change them at URL---
http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/ms/device/v...iguration.do?name=Default

Thank you to Community Advisor - Didactylos for providing this URL. I installed BOINC under SETI about four years ago and never went back to fine tune my preferences.

John Eamon

In another thread here "Boinc agent sucks" Lawrence Hardin suggested that I go to the default profile setup here on the WCG website for my machines.

My issue was that running two cpu threads caused some of my computers to go from a low energy usage state to a higher one with more fans turned on, more noise, etc. The profile settings on the web site allowed the BOINC agent to modify this and control the number of CPUs (virtual and real) being used.

While I looked at that particular setting, I noticed two others.

One controls the timing of the BOINC agent's check-in on the web, the other controls the amount of work the agent downloads.

It seems to me, that we could use these settings to only check once or twice a day and keep a day or two of work on the PC, keeping firewalls from doing their popups often.

Also, the timing, work and CPU settings on the profiles (default or other-named-profile) over ride the "Personal" settings on the machine where they are NOT available.

(And thanks LH, that CPU setting did the trick, and the machines are well behaved.)

BTW to other readers, if you think it's suspended all the time, it's because you told it to idle when you're using the machine rather than 'work all the time' you can't watch it work with that setting of Idle.

Finally, I want to say that I agree with Infoseeker on the vast majority of his posts. BOINC was why I left SETI years ago....and while it seems to be better at release 5+, it's still not as good as UD was...IMHO.