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rebirther
Cruncher Germany Joined: Nov 19, 2005 Post Count: 29 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Hello Admins,
I think I speak for most of the participants who would getting more credits then at the moment, I have calculated some of my CPU in different sub projects and its always the same: E6750=~19cr/h=getting ~9 An adjustment is very important to get the same amount of credits as in other projects and to spend more in contribution for the future. Thx -Reb |
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Sekerob
Ace Cruncher Joined: Jul 24, 2005 Post Count: 20043 Status: Offline |
Did a quick sampling of your E6750 host and found
----------------------------------------Host credit per second: WCG: 0.002596 CPDN: 0.003036 QMC: Hidden Primegrid: 0.000000 Sudoku: 0.005431 BOINC, all projects combined: 0.002765 http://www.boincstats.com/stats/boinc_host_graph.php?pr=bo&id=2393323 Did not look at the other 45 projects you have scores without recent RAC. A number of these projects are known to credit above the cobblestone standard. That said, none of the samples but this Sudoku substantiate a claim of you getting elsewhere 2.1 times as much as at WCG. By the looks that project started a week ago, so hopefully they will come to their senses. The credit business has been beaten to death in so many ways, the horse has long returned to ashes and dust. Once everyone is on the same client level.... upcoming recommendation 5.10.x, the differentials within WCG should reduce, but that wont change any of excess crediting at some other projects. When competing, many compete at Project level, so it's mostly level a playing field. If you want to know, here they are x-project comparisons: http://boinc.netsoft-online.com/e107_plugins/boinc/get_cpcs.php Why i crunch, else i would not at all: Medical and Humanitarian science. My C2D recent average at WCG is ~10.6/h. Have done a few exact science related just to see what they're about. I'd not dare speaking for the majority regarding project choice. They can speak for themselves. PS, you might want to merge all the E6750/P4 hosts that show up and align the CPID. Except for WCG (a different story), all BOINC projects permit you to do that.
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rebirther
Cruncher Germany Joined: Nov 19, 2005 Post Count: 29 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Did a quick sampling of your E6750 host and found A number of these projects are known to credit above the cobblestone standard. That said, none of the samples but this Sudoku substantiate a claim of you getting elsewhere 2.1 times as much as at WCG. By the looks that project started a week ago, so hopefully they will come to their senses. Why i crunch, else i would not at all: Medical and Humanitarian science. My C2D recent average at WCG is ~10.6/h. Have done a few exact science related just to see what they're about. I'd not dare speaking for the majority regarding project choice. They can speak for themselves. My c2d cpu has replaced my P4 (same CPID). Sudoku will manage credits next time for getting more! Dualcore or faster AMD64 with one core getting also around 14-20cr/h (linux 64bit has more), they are faster with shorter runtimes and its clear they are earning more! So for this cathegory of cpus there must be a solution (quorum 2=the lowest result *2 could be a good value). If a P4 calculate a WU against a >=c2d processor, P4 and similar getting 5 times lesser credits with longer runtimes. Science related is the first thing we would doing, yes, but BOINC is also a competition between team and team members, so as in other projects (rosetta 18cr/h, simap >20cr/h etc.) there must be an standardization or a little tweaking. I like wcg very much but there must be some work on it before I run it at 100% in the future. |
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Former Member
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rebirther, you are simply misreading the figures. WCG and Rosetta have a credit ratio of 0.983 - this means you will get almost identical credit from both projects. World Community Grid compares similarly well with almost all major projects.
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rebirther
Cruncher Germany Joined: Nov 19, 2005 Post Count: 29 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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World Community Grid compares similarly well with almost all major projects. Didactylos, dont understand me wrong but I cant agree with you, I picked up 2 values of some big projects and calculate the credits per hour, so here are: Einstein=~23cr/h -->c2d 2x2,4Ghz CPDN=~19,94cr/h -->c2d 2x2,66Ghz WCG=9cr/h Sorry, Iam still waiting for some user feedbacks and listening what they can say to this theme.  |
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Sekerob
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Are you talking core or CPU. The figures I posted first are directly from your machine, per core and CPDN is a known high creditor, above cobblestone standard. Some projects have been rich in setting the credit amounts to attract and hold participants.
----------------------------------------As for a basic BOINC rule, in a quorum 2 environment the lowest of the 2 is assigned. That's universal, except WCG goes the extra mile and also looks at credit claim history to see if the claim jives. If yours is more 'off' than the second claim from it's historic reference, you see it going to the lower, but occasionally you also see average or you see it giving both your claim. Let it run and find it's balance. If your machine is consistent in benching and not flip flopping around depending on mood, eventually the credits will creep up. Added: Just looked at your old history for the P4 and it shows Average credit per CPU second 0.003201 for Einstein. That's 11,52 per core/hr or 23 for a dual. Coincidence?
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rebirther
Cruncher Germany Joined: Nov 19, 2005 Post Count: 29 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Are you talking core or CPU. The figures I posted first are directly from your machine, per core and CPDN is a known high creditor, above cobblestone standard. Some projects have been rich in setting the credit amounts to attract and hold participants. As for a basic BOINC rule, in a quorum 2 environment the lowest of the 2 is assigned. That's universal, except WCG goes the extra mile and also looks at credit claim history to see if the claim jives. If yours is more 'off' than the second claim from it's historic reference, you see it going to the lower, but occasionally you also see average or you see it giving both your claim. Let it run and find it's balance. If your machine is consistent in benching and not flip flopping around depending on mood, eventually the credits will creep up. Iam talking per core, yes there are some of possibilities to valid the results, lowest of both, would be good here too if you are let the bench deciding, middle value of both... I think some users can post there credits with CPU + OS into this thread for comparison, would be helping very much  |
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Former Member
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I can confirm that 9 credits per core per hour is very low for a C2D @ 2.66Ghz. It amounts to 432 credits per day for the whole machine. That is a fair amount for a Pentium 4/D class of PC in most projects, but a C2D at this clockspeed should indeed get about twice as much. I have a C2D overclocked to 2.8GHz. Based on (non-optimized!) Boinc benchmarks, it claims about 21 credits/hour per core under Windows.
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Sekerob
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Can you name a few projects and a deivce reference, where you are actually getting 21cr/hr/core. Also looked at some of your devices, but see none immediately. You have 0.002641 on lattice equalling 9.5076 per hour per core, which is still lower than what I'm getting here at WCG for a slower C2D.
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rebirther
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Can you name a few projects and a deivce reference, where you are actually getting 21cr/hr/core. Also looked at some of your devices, but see none immediately. You have 0.002641 on lattice equalling 9.5076 per hour per core, which is still lower than what I'm getting here at WCG for a slower C2D. I have 3 lattice with ~19,55cr/h: http://boinc.umiacs.umd.edu/result.php?resultid=471466 http://boinc.umiacs.umd.edu/result.php?resultid=471471 http://boinc.umiacs.umd.edu/result.php?resultid=468517 primegrid: http://primegrid.com/orig/result.php?resultid=25442445 http://primegrid.com/orig/result.php?resultid=25442448 I can list 99% of all projects with my reference and is still the same [Edit 1 times, last edit by rebirther at Sep 10, 2007 3:19:49 PM] |
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