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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
The Boardroom
Considering the issues, and policies, which have been brought under question of late, I would like to place an outline in this chat room forum, with the purpose of formulating a concise and representative post to be placed in the 'suggestions/feedback' forum. There is a lack of communication at all levels within this project and what communication does take place appears to be either from the uninformed or occasionally those who are informed but restricted in their comments to the statement of policy type reply without offering any new or pertinent knowledge. Telling a person who asks a legitimate question that questions are never answered, outside of some misguided political systems, is not a legitimate reply. It is worth noting that, to some of us old enough to remember the concept of truth and lie, 'spin doctoring' and avoidance of an answer, or failure to address the subject, is still called lying Having recently, for me, come to the belated realization that there is a 'Board of Directors' in charge of steering the project and the dissemination of information and all things appropriate to a Board, it begs the question; Who are they and how did they get there? Remembering that this is a Public Endeavour with support from many and varied individual, and corporate donors, all with philanthropic intent and expectations. The Board is, I believe, made up of IBM representatives and doubtless some scientific advisors and as this is a commercially non productive area for this company, one can easily understand a lack of urgency to deal with issues arising. The entire project, seems to be running along Corporate lines and dare I say with no small degree of corporation style paranoia thrown in to the mix. The problem, I suspect, could be that although the Board members are likely excellent business people, the majority would have little or no experience in philanthropic or charitable public institutions. It is my premise that, with a Board of Directors in place, this board should also have duly elected representation of all donors, and interested parties not only the Corporate and Scientific communities and should also contain both a charter, to communicate clearly with the donors (effectively share holders) but also have representatives whose portfolio would specifically include this task. There are many people who would have the knowledge and expertise to represent the rank and file donor in the grass roots aspects of the project administration, dealing with day to day issues such as points systems, forum requirements, behavioral issues, clarification of little understood aspects of the project including general philosophy and headiway made toward stated goals. I would suggest that the active teams could nominate and elect their own representative from within their ranks. Some outstanding candidates immediately spring to mind, and then a more public election could be held within the overall community. The elected parties would then be submitted to the Board for approval subject to periodic review and re-election Board meetings would be held via internet conferencing, and would then include people from all nations to truly represent the interests of us all. Thoughts? Lots not covered here,(gotta stop writing novels), it's a start, I think. I await your considered and constructive responses. Cheers. ozylynx |
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Former Member
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The Advisory Board:
----------------------------------------http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread_thread,27722 Only one of the 17 members is an IBM representative. The rest represent world-renowned institutions, foundations and organisations. The names speak for themselves. [Edit 1 times, last edit by ErikaT at Oct 15, 2009 12:30:45 PM] |
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Former Member
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@Didy
----------------------------------------Well they might speak for themselves. Would you please point out, who amongst them represents the crunchers interests and concerns? How many of them have visited or informed us through this forum? Cheers. ozylynx ![]() [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Nov 1, 2006 10:15:34 AM] |
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Former Member
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Sorry, my post above wasn't intended as a complete reply to your proposal. I was just correcting your assumption that most of the board members were from IBM and didn't understand the needs of a philanthropic or charitable endeavour.
I am still giving your proposal some thought. |
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Former Member
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My Bad Didy. Point taken
That assumption (incorrect) was drawn from Nelsoc's statement: It's sort of a chicken and egg scenario. Without IBM, WCG would have no way to keep work going for the members. Of course, without the members, WCG (and therefore IBM) would have no reason to keep the whole thing going. But, IBM technically came first, so, as far as WCG goes, they are the ones who make the decisions. Cheers. ozylynx ![]() |
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Former Member
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Some very interesting points there ozylynx - would be nice to have a voice on the Board, but I'm not sure they would go for it - but if you don't ask.....
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Former Member
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Prhaps not official board members, a delegation?
It only makes sense that the focus of the board is on the 'primary objective' from a scientific and functional standpoint. What is neede is some type of subgroup to tend to the wants and needs of the crunchers and to have the Boards approval and attention. I'm really trying to throw this thread open to suggestions. Happy crunchers stay and don't stray. Help formulate a plan to keep all of the people happy some of the time and some of the people all of the time. No foolin' Cheers. p.s. A lack of interest in this type of effort will send the clearest message that everything is O.K. Do you really think it's OK? ![]() |
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David Autumns
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Hi ozylynx
----------------------------------------This representation of the crunchers best interests is to be found in the CA's and rest assured we do our V best while holding down jobs keeping families together and paying the bills. We are in communication with the WCG's Project Manager and the rest of the WCG Crew (on a good day) so if we shout loud and long enough we do eventually get heard. The members of the board are on a completely different level being luminaries in their specific scientific expertise from around the globe not your average Joe Cruncher like you and I. Dave ![]() |
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Sekerob
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Reading the draft paper of Dr. Bonneau and the matter of fact, off handed mention of WCG and the grid and not really making an effort of expressing appreciation of the CPU time provided by hundreds of thousands of PC's around the world, certainly drove the message of our plane and those using the grid service, the 'luminaries'.......English not my natural tongue i must have missed the finesse of the message......oh well its for the good of human kind...... how we get there does not matter.
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WCG
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David Autumns
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Which draft paper is this Sek? Is it linked in the forum?
----------------------------------------I'd like to take look Congrats on the 1500 posts btw I'd better get a move on Dave ![]() |
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