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Re: Very interesting aricle about Stanford's folding at home project

As to me being "totally mistaken".....these are the data from the foreign language website of people actually doing it with F@H beta, bringing all their drivers up to date and having done 40/50 WU's in a go (pieces of 6 minutes)! Even designed to run 125 Celcius (257 Fahrenheit) constantly? That's a very serious temperature issue building inside any PC.

If......The watt v thru-put is not at discussion....its the very fact that it does eat a lot of juice which is contrary to what the average computer user wants to see from his home PC / entertainment-centre......noise, heat, running cost.

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Errata. Article claims ATI GPU fan not starting until 100 degrees C, but before that the system fans are already majorly abuzz.
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I think they are actually claiming 4x, which is still useful.


Some guys of my team are running the beta GPU client of folding home and are crunching WU steps in about 7 minutes with it instead of about 45 minutes with the classic CPU client. It is not x20 faster but more about 6x-7x faster and it is still a beta client with old ATI drivers.
I think you misunderstood some information : folding is granting 4x more crédits for those who crunch and beta test this new GPU client.

To finish, the purpose of my message is only to tell to WCG dev & tech team that the GPU power processing is not an isolated advance with no future.. and i think they should invest some time in it before it is too late....

Only time will tell wink
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It's never going to be too late. Being too early might be fatal, though. Expensive, anyway.
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Re: Very interesting aricle about Stanford's folding at home project

It appears that BOINC is jumping in on the GPU technology. As mentioned in Fluffy's post on Oct. 20, 2006.

http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=2435
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Believe to have read that Dr.Baker/Rosetta was talking to MS and the possible use of the 4 million X360 3 Cell processor 3.2ghz machines already out there. That was posted somewhere a few weeks ago too.

Edit: Here's the post. Oct.11 that Dr.Baker commented: http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=1262
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Hi Y'all

It may already be too late. F@H has been working on this GPU technology for over two years already and WCG are unlikely to buy such technology and thus are already two years behind in their research. The prime reason stated for the 2 year delay has been GPU temp and if it is in Beta I'm guessing they feel that they have a handle on that.

There is quite a lot of applications available for lease which can accelerate the type of crunching we do. F@H call them cores and distribute them with various types of projects. If I recall correctly there are 9 or more of these each specific to certain tasks and utilizing SSE SSE2 3DNOW etc., WCG has shown no interest in any of these technologies which already exist and have been used extensively for years so I'm not holding my breath for GPU.

Cheers. ozylynx. smile
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Hi ozlynx,
Ideally, the application programs are written by the project scientists, and we just board them for use with distributed computing clients. Unless you program an application right from the start for use with streaming instructions, turning on the SSE2 flag or the SSE3 flag on the compiler will make little difference in speed. Using streaming instructions needs to be part of the program design. It is not an afterthought that can be added on to a program. The easy way is to write your program using the BLAS (Basic Linear Algebra Subroutine) library or a similar library. Then it is easy to produce optimized applications.

We can always hope that we will acquire a project that has been programmed this way. I expect that such things are mentioned when scientists approach us for advice on a potential project.

Lawrence
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Re: Very interesting aricle about Stanford's folding at home project

Here is an "Interview with ATi´s Andrew Dodds on Folding at Home" at http://www.chilehardware.com/articulo.php?sid=1666&pageid=2
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70-75c on my 1900xt.
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