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devilish Suggestion: Please develop AIX, Solaris(sparc/x86) and "Other" agents. (please drop a word or two to keep this thread alive)

Hello,

I think it's a nonsense that IBM powered project doen't support their own platform(AIX). devilish

I've read the related topics and arguments about low number of computers with AIX and Solaris OSs doesn't convince me.
Many desktops/laptops running WCG/BOINC have low commitment level, I mean look how many people just install the software an quit without finishing even a single WorkUnit.
Desktops/laptops ususally switched off when its not needed so no work is done. With servers its another story, multiple cpu/core working 24/7 will produce much more results I think.

Anyway, people, lets keep this thread alive to show the management of this project that these agents are needed.

Thanks,
Michael
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Re: Suggestion: Please develop AIX, Solaris(sparc/x86) and "Other" agents. (please drop a word or two to keep this thread alive)

hmmmm economics, but lets throw a different slant on things.....what if WCG were to port it to AIX as a first step......then the call for minuscule populations of hardware would never end at disproportionate additional expense .......give it time though....remember WCG aims to become the largest grid computing network in the world, still all at cost of IBM's philantropical efforts.

Consider, e.g. 20% or so on BOINC eats 85% support resource......80% UD Agent takes 15% support resource.....how much would u think 0.005% of added crunch power would cost in support & maintenance?
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Re: Suggestion: Please develop AIX, Solaris(sparc/x86) and "Other" agents. (please drop a word or two to keep this thread alive)

Thanks for posting. As it happens, the management already know.

There are perhaps some factors you are overlooking:

First, the vast majority of Unix computers are not in private hands. They belong to corporations, and that isn't the main target for WCG recruitment. Other grid projects attempt to harness this power more effectively.

Second, Unix servers are nearly always running critical applications and services. Running grid software on them would often be irresponsible.

Third, since there are so many Unixes, porting WCG to them all would require more work than porting to Windows, Linux and Mac combined. Already WCG have hit the wall of diminishing returns. The high demand for Mac support led to that being added, but so far Macs account for a tiny minority of WCG hosts. The Mac Intel platform is an even tinier subset of that. But WCG added the support because they expect the platform to grow, and they expect to be able to make significant recruitment headway there. This argument doesn't apply to Unix.

Finally, WCG haven't ruled out adding Unix support. But it is a very, very low priority.

And the last word: if you have a huge untapped computing resource that you are personally responsible for, then contact WCG directly. If you can deliver a few (hundreds of) thousands of computers, then that will provide plenty of motivation to add a new platform. Still, WCG would prefer you to run the agent on thousands of corporate desktops than thousands of corporate servers.
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Re: Suggestion: Please develop AIX, Solaris(sparc/x86) and "Other" agents. (please drop a word or two to keep this thread alive)

I undestand why AIX gets a low priority. Of course not having an AIX client is disappointing, I install AIX for a living and I used to run seti@home a lot. Once it even brought up a bad memory chip, and I was happy to see the fault come up early because of seti, rather than later when the machine would have gone into production. But, as I said, I can understand why there isn't a big push to get WCG on AIX.

Having said that I'm very much like to have WCG supported on AIX... are there other distributed computing projects that do support AIX? Something to keep our servers busy while waiting for WCG to come out for them?

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Re: Suggestion: Please develop AIX, Solaris(sparc/x86) and "Other" agents. (please drop a word or two to keep this thread alive)

There is a table on the unofficial BOINC wiki that shows which platforms a project runs on......

http://boinc-wiki.ath.cx/index.php?title=Catalog_of_BOINC_Powered_Projects
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Re: Suggestion: Please develop AIX, Solaris(sparc/x86) and "Other" agents. (please drop a word or two to keep this thread alive)

According to that site (which is a little out of date, but not so out of date as the timestamp indicates) no project supports AIX.

However, there are a handful of AIX clients working for SETI, and any project that releases their source code and allows anonymous should theoretically run under AIX.

It's a lot of work, though.
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Re: Suggestion: Please develop AIX, Solaris(sparc/x86) and "Other" agents. (please drop a word or two to keep this thread alive)

I used to run SETI classic, and a bit ot SETI/BOINC until it moved to version 5 and now it can't get any more work from the project. There is also the RC5-72 codebreaking project that runs on AIX but I am wondering if anything more useful can be found until someting like WCG is available. Not necessarily a BOINC project, just anything that does useful work.
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Re: Suggestion: Please develop AIX, Solaris(sparc/x86) and "Other" agents. (please drop a word or two to keep this thread alive)

Timestamp add-in 'Notify' for Firefox, works on compliant pages, prints last revision 19 september 2006.......the WCGwiki shows none ;>)
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Re: Suggestion: Please develop AIX, Solaris(sparc/x86) and "Other" agents. (please drop a word or two to keep this thread alive)

Compliant? Do tell... is there a standard?

edit: Just to be clear, I am aware of the Last-Modified header. However, it is difficult to use with dynamically generated pages, because it has no implicit meaning. Since it's not used for anything except perhaps cache management, there's little point trying to make it more meaningful.
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Re: Suggestion: Please develop AIX, Solaris(sparc/x86) and "Other" agents. (please drop a word or two to keep this thread alive)

If you have some time, you might want to check the other distributed computer projects to see which support AIX - http://distributedcomputing.info/projects.html
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