my only concern is that WCG has only 200,000 users!
the grid has 1.3 million users!

doesn't it make sense to join the bigger community to get things done [discovered] faster?

Grid stats are misleading..........that is all-time user stats......if you sent 1 result in 5 years ago you are still counted as active.

Real figure I would estimate to be well under half a mil.

Grid.org has proven they would rather impede progress. If they had told their crunchers they had temporarily run out of work but more work was due to arrive soon, that their efforts were greatly appreciated and they were all invited back, their crunchers would have left grid.org with a feeling of respect for them, crunched for other projects for a while then returned to grid.org when more work was available there. That would have sped up work at other projects instead of wasting an humongous amount of money and CPU time for absolutely no gain. From that perspective, grid.org is an impediment to progress. They are not the kind of people you want to get involved with.

Why are we rehashing this grid.org nonsense time and again.....i was there when it all went down, blatant admissions were posted on Cancer and the HPF(1), lastly was officially closed sometime end of June but only on August 20 or so a message went out by Robby Brewer that he would not load more HPF jobs. They have present ONLY 1 job as re-crunch, albeit at higher resolution not possible years ago, so fair.

In last few days a C.A. and a member started waving contracts in face of a new member (i resent that approach)....now that that's established, be assured that the backer, IBM, would not want a PR nightmare of the sorts.....contract work both ways, really.

Question of duplication of projects for Proteome research...there are so many angles, and like in any science, there's competition, thus dont be surprised that some work is overlapping....I'm not going to stay awake over that. There's something called CASP, where an actual folding competition is held, so pretty much the whole community knows who's doing what and with which advanced algorithms to improve predictions....competition drives progress.

Happier side, the number of years of crunch last night ended on 131 .... in there 30% or so is BOINC which is CPU time, not wallclock. We can definitely say that Schools are in and the record of about 138/139 is likely to be broken very very soon. Hope HPF2 comes back too..... that will kick a few more machines back in action as will the other low(er) hardware needing projects coming up......than most other DC's will only be visible in the rear view mirror.

have a nice weekend.

Dagorath,

The context of the contract waving i saw was....WCG can make u crunch anything they like, without your consent by hooking up your PC to their network u have agreed.....if u also did in that context, then there are 3. I resent that contract waving ... it's counter to fostering community atmosphere.

Anyway i wrote what i wrote...take it as u please.