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Doesn't save if I pull out the power supply before I turn off laptop

Yesterday there was a thunderstorm coming our way, so I decided to plug out all the power for the tv, laptop etc. I plugged my laptop out, and then I turned it off, but now when I turned it back on it started back on 0%.

I know it shows 0% when you first turn the computer on, but it started from scratch this time. it's up to 2% now, and I'm really annoyed, because it was up to 60% before I turned it off yesterday. Why doesn't it save it's work if I plug out the power before I tun it off...?
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Re: Doesn't save if I pull out the power supply before I turn off laptop

Hello Margrethe,
Let me guess. It was a FAAH work unit. Some of the FAAH work units we are going through now only have a few check points. Retsof has commented that several of his recent FAAH work units had NO checkpoints. Anything that interrupts one of those work units before the end would force a member to crunch it all again. I think that is what happened to you.

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Re: Doesn't save if I pull out the power supply before I turn off laptop

Here's an excerpt of another post (i) made to identify the FAAH batches we're going thru in the phase 2, (maybe) almost complete defenitive guide:
Type 1. Saves AFTER 16.66 , 33.33 , 50.00 , 66.66, 83.33, 100.00 (6 checkpoints / segments)
Type 2. Saves AFTER 33.33 , 66.66, 100.00 (3 checkpoints / segments)
Type 3. Saves AFTER 50.00 , 100.00 (2 checkpoints / segments)
Type 4. Saves ONLY when 100% complete! (Cant be interrupted at all)
Type 5. Saves AFTER first 6.25% and subsequent multiples there off (16 checkpoints / segments)
Type 6. Saves AFTER first <=5.0% and subsequent multiples there off (20 or more checkpoints / segments)
Type 7. Saves AFTER first 25.0% and subsequent multiples there off (4 checkpoints / segments)
Type 8. Saves AFTER first 20.0% and subsequent multiples there off (5 checkpoints / segments)

The moment the first red line appears in the C:Best Docking Energy, indicates/confirms also what FAAH type you have in the present batches i.e. if the red line appears just at 16.66% and the green line retreating to the beginning of the graph, you got a type 1.

Going from 90 to 66.66 suggests you had a Type 2 (my private numbering). I dont know of smaller segments at present on FAAH, the single segment Type 4 identified by Retsof.


Hope it helps, i just wish this had been identified by the project runners up front.......hundreds if not thousands of hours crunch time been lost.
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Re: Doesn't save if I pull out the power supply before I turn off laptop

Ok, thanks.

I thought everything was saved when we turned the computer off, but i guess not. It's too bad, there must be alot of lost data out there.

Anyway, thanks for your answers.
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Re: Doesn't save if I pull out the power supply before I turn off laptop

Hi Margretha,

This sounds like the same effect I have been struggling with. If you follow the thread "Recent results not showing" in this same forum you will see the conclusion I have reached.

Please try putting your laptop into hibernation instead of shutdown before you pull the power. I think you will then find the agent will start up exactly where it left off, with no lost time or data.

If you need any help with understanding and/or configuring hibernation mode on your laptop, just ask here.

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Re: Doesn't save if I pull out the power supply before I turn off laptop

DavidHobbs, that's a great discovery of getting Windows to put everything back into RAM from hibernation, 100% the way it was and resume at the right clock tick and produce a valid result with BOINC (UD gives clock hour credit and does no pre-validation far as i know for credit)......i'll experiment to confirm the BOINC side.

I might start doing hibernation for energy conservation reasons and.....625 US annual e-bill (and rising) just for 1 PC is over the top for me. 200 watt-hr x 24 x 365 = 1765 kwh annual. See the record e-bill thread!

Maybe you could write a little 'how-to' post for members sticky folder, pretty plz.

ciao

PS sorry for being a doubting thomas but it's like Fleischer and Pons ....science requires repeatability worried
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Re: Doesn't save if I pull out the power supply before I turn off laptop

OK, this is how I have mine set up to hibernate automatically at a set time.

This assumes the machine is running XP-Pro. I guess it may be similar in XP-Home but I have no experience of that platform. You need to be logged on with administrator rights and you need to have a password set. If necessary, go to Control Panel, User Accounts to set a password for the required account.

1. First of all you have to ensure hibernation mode is enabled. Go to Control Panel, Power Options, and under the Hibernate tab make sure you have ticked the Enable Hibernation check-box.

2. Set up a scheduled event for hibernating. Go to All Programmes, Accessories, System Tools, Scheduled Tasks, and double-click Add Scheduled Task and click Next to start the new task wizard. Select Command Prompt from the drop-down list and click Next to continue. Check the Daily radio-button (assuming you want the task to run each day) and click Next. Now choose the time you want the task to be executed and click Next. This brings up a window with your username and you must type in your password and confirm it in the second entry, then click Next. In the next window check the box labelled "Open advanced properties for this task when I click Finish", and click Finish.

3. You will now be presented with a window showing your Command Prompt advanced settings. The command in the Run box will be "C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe". Change this to "C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe /k rundll32 powerprof.dll, SetSuspendState". Click OK. When the username and password window appears again enter and confirm your password and click OK to complete the schedule. Close the Scheduled Tasks window.

4. At the chosen time each day your PC will hibernate, saving the status of all running programmes to the hard drive. When you start it up again it will resume from the precise point it left off.

5. IMPORTANT: There is a space character before /k, before rundll32, before powerprof and before SetSuspendState. The use of upper case and lower case characters in SetSuspendState is important. Don't forget the comma after powerprof.dll

6. NOTE: If you do not enter the correct password during the schedule setup process the task will not run, even though it appears in the list of tasks. In this case you need to edit the task (double-click the task in the task list when you go to All Programmes, Accessories, System Tools, Scheduled Tasks), make some minor change and then change it back again, and then you will need to enter your password again when attempting to save the changes.

7. NOTE 2: Whether the workstation will hibernate or stand-by depends on the value of the "When I press the sleep button on my computer" setting found within the Power Options section of the Control Panel, and also on the power functionality available to your computer (ACPI). On my own machines there is no "When I press the sleep button on my computer" option, and the scheduled task causes a hibernation as desired.

Of course, having it hibernate automatically is one thing, but you may also want it to start up automatically as well. To do this, you need to go into the BIOS and choose the "Wake up on Real-Time-Clock" or similar option, and set the wake-up time required. Alternatively, if there is no such option in your particular BIOS you may be able to shoose a "Start automatically when power is applied" function and then use a time-switch in the power lead to turn it on at the required time.

Whichever method you choose you will want your computer to log on automatically and start running straight away. You can achieve this as follows:

1. First you must have a password set for the username you wish to logon automatically.

2. From the Start button, choose Run and enter the command "control userpasswords2" and click OK. Note the space between the two words.

3. Select the username you want to logon automatically and clear the check-box "Users must enter a username and password to use this computer". Click OK.

4. In the next window you must enter your password and confirm it, then click OK.

That's it! From now on, whenever the computer boots up it will automatically log on as the chosen user.

I believe you can run the UD agent as a service rather than an application and the agent will then run as soon as the computer powers up and before any user logs on, so that would remove the need for an automatic logon. I have no experience of this, although it has been referred to elsewhere in these forums.

David.
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Re: Doesn't save if I pull out the power supply before I turn off laptop

Further to my last post about hibernation mode, if you do choose this method I would still recommend occasionally doing a manual shut-down instead of hibernation to "clean up" the system.

Also, be aware that if you have Windows Updates set up to install automatically this might cause a re-boot, with associated loss of crunching time/data.

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Re: Doesn't save if I pull out the power supply before I turn off laptop

A couple of tips on streamlining the process: the cmd part isn't required, the task scheduler can run rundll directly without leaving behind an open command prompt.

Rather than reducing your system security by removing passwords, it is far better to migrate to BOINC and install it as a service. This will crunch when nobody is logged in, and continue crunching no matter who logs on.
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Re: Doesn't save if I pull out the power supply before I turn off laptop

Thanks for that Didactylos,

I didn't know you could schedule rundll directly. Another tip to file away in the little grey cells!

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