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Use the BOINC client as the default client in future projects

Hi all,

I was just wondering, would it not be more efficient to make BOINC the default client for new projects? Or another option would be to re-write the UD client.
Almost every new pc you buy these days has at least a dual core processor and 1-2GB RAM. So running workunits on both cores should not be a problem at all. Moreover, it's really ashame to waste the other 50% of processing power when using the existing UD client on dual core processors.

So is there any chance that BOINC will be the standard in the near future, or will the UD client be re-written to support multiple core or multiple processor machines? Because I think that in a year every new pc will have at least dual core.
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Re: Use the BOINC client as the default client in future projects

The UD client is proprietary. Feel free to bug United Devices about it, but I get the strong impression they don't care any more.

It's still a bit early to switch entirely to BOINC. You may have noticed that the majority of problems we see on the forums are caused by BOINC. When you bear in mind that there are far fewer BOINC deployments than UD deployments, this discrepancy is amplified.

WCG are working on a simplified BOINC client, though. That should make it easier to recommend as the default client, but the bugs and conflicts still apparent in the official BOINC version will take time to work out.
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Re: Use the BOINC client as the default client in future projects

Okay, so this means that the UD client will not be developed further (since you say "they don't care any more".)

You've got a point regarding the problems caused by BOINC, but the cause might be that BOINC users are normally a bit more into computing and more into following the complete processing of workunits.

It would be great if there would be some kind of BOINC installer like you have for the UD client. Just run the file and put in your username and password. That would be a _lot_ easier for lots of people. Keep up the good work guys! cool
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Re: Use the BOINC client as the default client in future projects

Okay, so this means that the UD client will not be developed further (since you say "they don't care any more".)



UD may not agree with Didactylos's impression (opinion) that they don't care anymore. Best to ask them if they intend to develop further.

Also, dual core hasn't turned out the the way manufacturers have hyped it, dual core is not like having 2 processors. I won't be wasting my money on one.
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Re: Use the BOINC client as the default client in future projects

Also, dual core hasn't turned out the the way manufacturers have hyped it, dual core is not like having 2 processors. I won't be wasting my money on one.
Sure it is...especially with BOINC, that can take advantage of two jobs running in parallel. Twice as many points as a uniprocessor must mean SOMETHING. (??) You may be thinking of HYPERTHREADING as being the one that is overhyped.
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Re: Use the BOINC client as the default client in future projects

I have been running my AMD X2-4400 system for around a year now at 100% usage on both cores. It is true that not one single commercially available program has yet been written to take advantage of the dual cores at the same time much less the 64-bit capability also included. However, a dual core can greatly speed up two or more programs(threads) running on the same computer which is not uncommon at all anymore.

Thanks to dual core I am running the WCG and F@H on my system at the same time and both programs run like they are on a seperate computers. I have to disagree and say distributed computing can GREATLY benefit from this technological leap forward. Especially, being AMD is coming out with Quad Core processors next year and IBM/Sony/Toshiba are going to be integrating "Cell Processors" into their products in the coming years. The upcoming November showing of the Sony PS3 using a cell processor is capable of 256 gigaflops in theory which can greatly beat any other known single procesor today. IBM has already demonstrated server solutions using cell processors and plans to market them soon.

I notice a significant slowdown everytime I go back to using a single core computer system. I am saying multiple cores processors are going to be the norm in the near future even in low end personal computers.
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Re: Use the BOINC client as the default client in future projects

What? All sorts of programs take advantage of multiple cores. It's called multithreading. It is not a new technology - it has been around for decades.
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Okay, my machine is P4 2.53ghz HT and has been processing with BOINC, the fairly even lengthed FAAH's @ 7h29m CPU time average....how does this compare with real dual cores?
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Sure it is...especially with BOINC, that can take advantage of two jobs running in parallel. Twice as many points as a uniprocessor must mean SOMETHING. (??) You may be thinking of HYPERTHREADING as being the one that is overhyped.


Didactylos,

Yes, you are correct. I was thinking of hyperthreading.
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