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Re: WAPSTATS



The speed issue isn't the size of the image, but rather the way boincwapstats works. You query my server, my server queries the project server. The project server returns the requested data to my server, my server builds the image and returns it to you......as you can see, it's takes a little bit of time, but the advantage is a signature that always has the most current information (assuming the project server is up and running).


If slow forun loads is the price we must pay for a feature that is totally useless then I hope sigs with wapstats are banned from these forums. Do we really need crunching stats that up to date? Are children going hungry because the stats are a few hours old? Are crunchers being ridiculed for dated sig stats to the point where they pull out Uzis and gun down scores of innocents? Do the servers not have enough to do already?

Sorry, Didactylos. I've resolved to soothe extremists with soft words as per recent advice but I think these wapstat nuts are way beyond extreme.
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Boy, that K.D Lang email must have really hurt......but i do agree on not WAPping.....this eats serious cpu time when browsing the WCG forum!!!!!
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If slow forun loads is the price we must pay for a feature that is totally useless then I hope sigs with wapstats are banned from these forums. Do we really need crunching stats that up to date?


Yeah, that's a really nice story, but the fact of the matter is that you do not have to wait for the signature graphic to load before you can read the content of the post.

As far as up to date stats.....what's the point in having a stats signature with the wrong information?
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Sorry BrainSmashR, i think yours in fact suffered impact..... your ID must have gone to your head. WCG stats update every 6 hours.....they are the only meaningfull stats irrespective if BOINC gives it up to the second.

Many still could not care less about being able to read quick then get all the lacing which eats a dial up users` bandwidth, cpu time, thus crunch time....have applied a block on your *.brainsmashr.* and RIPped images coming from same in FFX.... biggrin....you've been reverted to plain text going forward.
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Re: WAPSTATS


If slow forun loads is the price we must pay for a feature that is totally useless then I hope sigs with wapstats are banned from these forums. Do we really need crunching stats that up to date?


Yeah, that's a really nice story, but the fact of the matter is that you do not have to wait for the signature graphic to load before you can read the content of the post.


I don't like the hour glass I get when waiting for the graphic. If it told me something like "Don't worry, just waiting for a ridiculous wapstat delayed sig to load" then it would be OK but it does not tell me the cause of the delay. For all I know it could be waiting for posts. It's needlessly confusing. I say needless because the additional wait brings no real benefit.





As far as up to date stats.....what's the point in having a stats signature with the wrong information?


Wrong? How about "outdated by 6 hours worst case"? Now that we've described the situation accurately tell me... How are we suffering from that slightly outdated information?

The current stats are accurate within 6 hours. Considering that sig stats are just bragging and serve no useful purpose 6 hours is plenty good enough.

What's the point in me spending money every 2 years or more for a faster CPU and higher bandwidth when somebody comes along and finds a new way to chew up CPU cycles and bandwidth with something nobody needs? What benefit do I get out of having up to the minute stats in my sig? What benefit does the rest of the world get when they read those stats?
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Yes, I can see how that would be confusing for a noobie, but most people expirenced with forums know what's going on when they see a place holder instead of an image.

As for the 6 hour delay, again, that's a nice story, but if you utilize one of the more common sig generating websites, you are limited to their update cycle which is once a day rather than 4 times a day.

Now someone did mention in a previous post that there are other image generators out there, but I still have not been given a link, and I still don't see how that would benefit users without their own server to host the script/program.....which brings us back to using Boincsynergy or Munday or one of the others than only update their stats once a day.

As for the "benefit" of a stat sig.....It's not for you anymore than my car stereo is for your benefit just because you can hear it over your own car stereo. Or the paint job on my house even though you see it driving by, or the dog in my backyard even though he might fetch for you a time or two. Those things are for MY benefit, or in the case of the sigs, for the benefit of the user utilizing it.

If you don't want to see them, then block the images. It's a much more effective method since you just might run into sigs hosted by my server on other forums, and it's the "right" thing to do since a forum wide ban of wapsig's just to make 2 users happy is a ludricus suggestion.

I didn't come here for the drama....I don't even crunch for WCG. I just stopped by to find out if/when the WAP system will be implimented, and I got my answer from knreed, ironically enough, making all of your comments.....

Was "needless" the word you used....and I say needless because the extra wait brought me no real benefit.

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Right. Twice I asked what are the benefits of wapstat sigs and twice you've failed to list any benefit to anybody.

This is the problem when kiddies get hold of free server software and install it on their dad's computer. Now you're looking for a job for the server and have found one. Too bad it's a job that nobody needs done, a job that has no real upside just a down side, something you do just because it can be done and to heck with everybody else. Your failure to consider the impact of your actions on the world around you is so juvenile. Your legacy amongst the stat servers will be that yours was the one everybody blocked.

BTW, your bit about about your car stereo, paint and dog has been cut and pasted at least a zillion times. You really should try and think of something original. Ripped graphics, reposted news, nuisance stats. Get a life.
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Re: WAPSTATS

Dagorath, you must have been Absolutely Torched and Twanged by that K.D.Lang email love struck ......this is not worth any further discussion...he gets his WAPstats and there are like 2 that use is (him and his friend on WCG)....use FFX+RIP and you'll never have to see it again....www.boincsmashr.com is my Webscan permament blocktable in anticipation...learned something in the cause of this laughing .

If WCG/knreed chose to activate this without much effort, its keeping the extra few crunchers happy....so be it.

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Right. Twice I asked what are the benefits of wapstat sigs and twice you've failed to list any benefit to anybody.

This is the problem when kiddies get hold of free server software and install it on their dad's computer. Now you're looking for a job for the server and have found one. Too bad it's a job that nobody needs done, a job that has no real upside just a down side, something you do just because it can be done and to heck with everybody else. Your failure to consider the impact of your actions on the world around you is so juvenile. Your legacy amongst the stat servers will be that yours was the one everybody blocked.

BTW, your bit about about your car stereo, paint and dog has been cut and pasted at least a zillion times. You really should try and think of something original. Ripped graphics, reposted news, nuisance stats. Get a life.


Yeah well that's the funny thing about Americans. We do stuff because we can, not just because it "needs" to be done.

Get used to it, Frenchie, because no amount of crying on your part or lying about how much you've suffered from the impact of my server is going to change it.
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Actually, doing things just because you can with no regard for anyone else is the pathetic thing about merkins not the funny thing. The other pathetic thing is that you think Frenchy is the ultimate insult. You still don't seem to realise the Frenchys (and most everybody else) knew there were no WMD in Iraq tongue.

No, poor Brain(Dead)SmashR, I'm no Frenchy but I would rather be Frenchy than merkin. Now let's see, a DDOS can be done so why not. Funny thing about us Canucks, eh?
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