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GEORGE DOMINIC
Senior Cruncher Joined: Nov 21, 2004 Post Count: 227 Status: Offline |
seek n you shall find !!!, the world changes is a sacred truism, hence all the inverse chat, its true sheep dont remember is the only constant hence become like sheep? incite the nearest all powerful warlock n regret it? science needs majick n winners can tell you.
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Former Member
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Hey, George. Whatever you're "on" isn't good stuff. If you want to learn about good stuff (e.g., my homebrew), let me know.
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Hey, George. Whatever you're "on" isn't good stuff. If you want to learn about good stuff (e.g., my homebrew), let me know. I am just now reading this--and i see the only good thing Carter did was to allow homebrewing Cheers. Bill Velek  |
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However, if I may use an analogy: you don't need a weatherman to tell you it's raining. And boy is it raining! OK, rub it in... I've lived in Arizona for 26 years, and I remember the years when we could predict that October, January, and February would have storms and rain (as well as the summer thunderstorms arriving almost every day in July and August) Well, last weekend was the first measurable rain in Tucson since October 17th of last year - and that was 23 hundredths of an inch. If we're lucky, we're getting more rain this weekend. In the past 5-10 years, average temperatures have almost always been ABOVE normal, and rain BELOW normal. We have no more water, yet people are arriving in AZ at a rate of 495 PER DAY to share what we already don't have. Do you think we're not noticing a climate change? Some of us ARE concerned and TRY to make informed, conscious decisions that help the planet. "act locally, think globally" still applies, though it seems to continue to be a minority thought. Certainly it isn't national policy, and you all are right, it should be. Someone was just commenting on Jimmy Carter - they might be interested to know he also mandated temperature settings (for government buildings, though private structures were also pushed to comply) which conserved energy (these have been relaxed since, and are now largely ignored. As a result, most stores are freezing cold in the summer). I'm not trying to defend his presidency - I can't - but I can defend his ideas and personal goals. Just remember, a president can't actually accomplish anything without the cooperation of the House and Senate, and ultimately, the voters who make their opinions heard to their elected representatives. While those politicians listen to the general voter response, those that eventually get the most ear time are those that pay cash.  FB |
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[fb]I've lived in Arizona for 26 years, and I remember the years when we could predict that October, January, and February would have storms and rain (as well as the summer thunderstorms arriving almost every day in July and August) Well, last weekend was the first measurable rain in Tucson since October 17th of last year - and that was 23 hundredths of an inch. If we're lucky, we're getting more rain this weekend. July 5th can't come soon enough, eh Fred! Have they introduced any voluntary/mandatory water conservation measures? Has the situation resulted in any increased/proposed water rates? I knew I should have bought that house in Winterhaven.  In the past 5-10 years, average temperatures have almost always been ABOVE normal, and rain BELOW normal. We have no more water, yet people are arriving in AZ at a rate of 495 PER DAY to share what we already don't have. Do you think we're not noticing a climate change? Does that 495 figure include the illegals?  |
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GEORGE DOMINIC
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Post like that Didactylos make me want to do my part. In fact I think I'll make a BIG OLD bonfire just to put some more junk in the air. While I'm doing it I'll think of you. You have a nice night thinking about all the pollution I'm making on your behalf.
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Sour grapes? Or small mindedness?
Where I live, what you propose would be illegal. Maybe it is where you live, too. |
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July 5th can't come soon enough, eh Fred! Have they introduced any voluntary/mandatory water conservation measures? Has the situation resulted in any increased/proposed water rates? I knew I should have bought that house in Winterhaven. You aren't kidding, Julie! Nothing mandatory on conservation, there are the usual TV commercials, and the water company does have a free(?) service that will check your house for water leaks. Golf courses are, I believe, required to use recycled water, though I don't know if that applies county-wide, or just in the city limits. Water has definitely gone up in price, especially for "high users" - there is a cutoff point, if you as an individual homeowner go above some number of gallons a month, the price per gallon triples. They still make exceptions for pool filling, though, just call the water company ahead of time. No, it's still all very relaxed. Phoenix is worse, with a lot of houses having lawns now. 80% of water STILL goes into agriculture - hey, the country demands its Pima Cotton! If course, there are also the open lakes being built with neighborhoods around them, as well as the Tempe Town Lake. Given a choice, though, I'd take lakes over grass any day, since the evaporation of grass is up to 100 times that of a flat water surface. Still, though, it seems dumb to take Colorado river water 500 miles through an OPEN CANAL through dry desert only to dump it into a lake. I don't know how population growth has impacted where you live, Julie, but it hasn't done Tucson any good. While your house in Winterhaven would be worth a lot more, you'd also wake up every day to midtown pollution and traffic. That brown haze that used to show up about 6 times a year is now there every day. I'd like to tell everyone to stay away, but I'm not a native either, which made me part of the problem at one time. I just wish we had an economy that wasn't funded by development. ...people are arriving in AZ at a rate of 495 PER DAY to share what we already don't have. Does that 495 figure include the illegals? (chuckle) No, that's just the legal ones. Cheers FB |
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July 5th can't come soon enough, eh Fred! Have they introduced any voluntary/mandatory water conservation measures? Has the situation resulted in any increased/proposed water rates? I knew I should have bought that house in Winterhaven. You aren't kidding, Julie! Nothing mandatory on conservation, there are the usual TV commercials, and the water company does have a free(?) service that will check your house for water leaks. Golf courses are, I believe, required to use recycled water, though I don't know if that applies county-wide, or just in the city limits. Water has definitely gone up in price, especially for "high users" - there is a cutoff point, if you as an individual homeowner go above some number of gallons a month, the price per gallon triples. They still make exceptions for pool filling, though, just call the water company ahead of time. No, it's still all very relaxed. Phoenix is worse, with a lot of houses having lawns now. 80% of water STILL goes into agriculture - hey, the country demands its Pima Cotton! If course, there are also the open lakes being built with neighborhoods around them, as well as the Tempe Town Lake. Given a choice, though, I'd take lakes over grass any day, since the evaporation of grass is up to 100 times that of a flat water surface. Still, though, it seems dumb to take Colorado river water 500 miles through an OPEN CANAL through dry desert only to dump it into a lake. I don't know how population growth has impacted where you live, Julie, but it hasn't done Tucson any good. While your house in Winterhaven would be worth a lot more, you'd also wake up every day to midtown pollution and traffic. That brown haze that used to show up about 6 times a year is now there every day. I'd like to tell everyone to stay away, but I'm not a native either, which made me part of the problem at one time. I just wish we had an economy that wasn't funded by development. ...people are arriving in AZ at a rate of 495 PER DAY to share what we already don't have. Does that 495 figure include the illegals? (chuckle) No, that's just the legal ones. Cheers FB Thanks for the heads-up, fb. Sorry, but we are going to be moving back there this summer. (So does that make it 497?) The weather, the hiking, Trader Joe's, Beyond Bread ... there's just too much that we miss. We've been looking at homes around Hacienda Del Sol between River and Ina but have noticed that the whole area is on sceptic.  The views are quite stunning, though, I must admit. This was a real eye-opener, let me tell you. (Thank goodness we had only been renting when we lived there!)   http://www.ofheo.gov/media/pdf/4q05hpi.pdf (See page 15) |
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