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xterminatordedust
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Status for each project

Just one thing:

(approximate or not) percent done for each project like the einstein@home project http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/server_status.php

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Re: Status for each project

mgl garrett posted the same status message this week in about 10 different threads in the FightAids@home forum area. Did you look there?

Dr. Bonneau posts status messages about HPF/Rosetta in the Human Proteome Folding forum area. Did you look there?

The link you give is more of a project up/down green/red thing. That comes up for discussion now and then.

FightAids@Home for BOINC was just added here 3 days ago. As more projects come online it will probably become more important to come up with some kind of status box like that.

grid.org, which uses the same UD program interface, has had the same sort of server status discussion over there, but I don't think anything has been decided, since they are moving soon to new servers.
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Re: Status for each project

My suggestion is not about forum.
Information is real in the forum but a lot of people never come here and stay in website (non-forum)

It would be really wonderful to have an idea about what we are doing (first % , 10% done, 1/2, 90%). It's an important information according to me.

Einetin@home
Total workunits Workunits to generate Percent done
6,731,410 5,788,670 14.005 %

It's clear and inform easily crunchers.


Somting about this:

FAAH: 51 % done
HPF1: 96% done

Sorry about others treads. Do you job if you guess it unoportunate.
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Re: Status for each project

Bioscience grid projects don't usually have a clearly defined endpoint. Sure, at some point the scientists will get their paper published, and release results -- but the research continues.

For example, the HPF project is going into a new phase, studying folding at higher resolution.

So, unless you want a Microsoft progress bar, I don't think this will work.
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Re: Status for each project

sort of like the seti project....

Number of alien contacts: 0
Number of alien contacts: 0
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(Yes, I know that their project is based on crunching raw radiotelescope data, but I wanted to have some fun with it. They will just keep sending data until contact is made or the radiotelescope wears out.)

einstein@home is based on crunching a set of gravitational wave data. What if they gather some more? The progress percentage would change, and it could continue to change, as more neutron stars are found and the project parameters could change. It's the same for nearly all research based projects.

There is a project to find the "largest" prime number.

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How do you make a progress number out of that?

Here's a piece of music that started September 5, 2001 in Halberstadt, Germany. It was the 89th birthday of John Cage. His ASLSP, As Slow As Possible has a well defined progress.

http://www.john-cage.halberstadt.de/

The paying audience for the beginning heard the organ bellows start up and continue.
That lasted for 17 months to start.
Three organ pipe were added to the construction.
The first three note chord started to sound February 5, 2003.

Organ pipes will be added as needed.
Two notes of another chord started July 5, 2004.
Two quarter notes of the first chord ended July 5, 2005.
It goes on from there...

There are 8 movements.
That site has the notes listed for the first movement.
The first movement ends September 4, 2072.
The second movement starts September 5, 2072.

John Cage's birthday is September 5, so many of the changes are done on the 5th of the month.

Intermission is in 2319.
One of the other 7 movements will be repeated as the 8th, but we may not know which one until sometime in the 2500s.
The piece finishes in the year 2639.
How many years are allocated for applause. After several years of clapping, nobody will recall what it was for.

Will they play a movement as a 72 year encore?
Who knows?
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Re: Status for each project

Percent complete has several aspects.

One is: work completed... that is an easy one to compute and in fact is alread reported by the scientists in the forums.

Another is: time processed and time remaining..... This is not firm because not all work units are alike and not all devices crunching work perform in the same manner.

A third aspect is: What is the whole project.....To World Community Grid, the crunch time of a project is one part of the project. Then comes the actual analysis of the results that the scientists perform and the papers they publish about their findings.

Hope this helps.
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