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ericinboston
Senior Cruncher Joined: Jan 12, 2010 Post Count: 265 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Hi hchc. You and I were on a long thread about a year ago here regarding the Mac Mini M2. I still swear by it. You can buy them now at Apple Refurbished for $319! They are rock solid, quiet, not much heat, and gentle on the electric bill! Let me know your thoughts. I didn't see any URLs in this thread regarding to Wintel minis or their pricing but I highly doubt you will find ones for under $300 that will outmatch the Mini M2.
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hchc
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Aug 15, 2006 Post Count: 865 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I grew up with Apple IIe/IIgs and Apple Macintoshes in the K-12 school system (although the high school finally updated their technology and got all new Windows 98 PCs), but I'm really a beginner and never used macOS X or anything more modern, so I'd have to start from scratch.
----------------------------------------That's great there's an Apple Refurbished storefront, especially if it's an official Apple store. I've bought a lot of my PCs from Dell Refurbished (with great 40-50% off coupons or their clearance "hot deals" section). For crunchboxes running BOINC and other distributed computing projects, I'm still really all in on Linux since it's free and can be run headless without a silly GUI. I'm still a Windows 10 Pro user for my daily driver, but I've been putting off really switching completely to Linux for many, many years, since I'm so ingrained. That being said, if I need a non-Windows, non-Linux device, I'll definitely look into Apple Refurbished! Maybe to use DaVinci Resolve or something, not sure. I'm really philosophically trying to get completely away from Microsoft as well as Apple ecosystems. That's just my personal goal, but I do respect the Apple users out there and thanks for sharing those prices. $300s is WAY cheaper than a new Mac Mini or Mac Studio.
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ericinboston
Senior Cruncher Joined: Jan 12, 2010 Post Count: 265 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Hi hchc,
----------------------------------------For the record I am not an Apple Fanboy in any shape. What I like about these mini m2s is that they run headless, are tiny, use very little power, crunch quite well, generate very little heat, and are quiet as a mouse. Forget Windows and all the stupid reboots and nag screens. Forget Linux and it's lack of resale value. Forget Wintel mini computers and their reliance on Windows reboots. I'm telling you if I could buy another 25 Mac mini M2s, it would be amazing. The cost is so cheap and the performance is great. Once you spend 15 mins configuring the Mini, it's simply done. I have my own notes if you want to see them and give it a try. p.s. Mac is pretty similar to Linux these days p.s.s. I grew up on an Apple //e starting in 1983, used it throughout most of college until 1991, then learned MS DOS and WFWG 3.11 in early 90s. I taught myself BASIC, Assembler, PASCAL, as well as loved hacking and pirating software back in the 80s. The pirating was more of a challenge to see if I could do it. ![]() [Edit 3 times, last edit by ericinboston at May 30, 2025 3:19:17 PM] |
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phytell
Cruncher Joined: Sep 8, 2014 Post Count: 39 Status: Offline |
I've some experience with the Dell, Lenovo, and Hp mini systems, especially around the Skylake era.
Overall they work pretty well, and I've not had any failures in a couple years of crunching, though some of the systems are still relatively recent additions. They're available extremely cheaply, especially if you're willing to do some assembly yourself (disks and power adapters not always included). My record thus far is about $40, though average is probably closer to 60-80. For noise, Lenovo is the winner hands down, no contest. Hp is in the middle. I have one with a Pentium g6400t that ties the Lenovo team for barely-audible behavior and suspect newer Hp builds may be quieter, but in general Hp is noticeable. Dell... is very loud. If you care about noise levels go Lenovo. You won't notice them unless they're right next to you on a desk, it's 80 degrees (~25 C) in the room, or you're running half a dozen in the same cubic foot. My machines return roughly 60 or so MCM results a day, with slight variations depending on the chip. They're all 35w or less. You can get stronger builds if you want to pay more, but my goal was compute for cheap, and these sure beat out Raspberry Pis in terms of processing strength. |
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gibbcorp
Advanced Cruncher Joined: Nov 29, 2005 Post Count: 80 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Just got a minisforum 7945hx mini for £350 + £50 Ram + £15 SSD + £ 10 fan. Already had PSU. Can get full system too. 100w TDP uses about 130w from the wall. 16 core 32 threads running at 4.4 ghz. Currently doing 300k ppd. Cam also put a discreet gpu in it which is good.
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