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Re: Graphs and stats not updated

In which way "not accurate"?
Maybe I have misunderstood the first amounts showing (Sep 29)... If they are showing the amount crunched on that day then they may be accurate (although it seems lot to be crunched in one day for me). If the amount shown is a accumulation of when the testing started (some time back in August) then it's way off (I have crunched more than shown). I'm starting to suspect that there will be no credit for anything crunched before Sep 29 (I was under the impression that it would be).
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In which way "not accurate"?
Maybe I have misunderstood the first amounts showing (Sep 29)... If they are showing the amount crunched on that day then they may be accurate (although it seems lot to be crunched in one day for me).
Yes, that is what is shown, though it is hard to tell what the cutoff times for those stats run where (and if they ran at the previously scheduled times). For me, the first one seemed to be low (only 11d of runtime), while the second one showed approx. 30d, which looks about right for half a day (I used to get roughly 2 months of runtime per calendar day before the shutdown).
If the amount shown is a accumulation of when the testing started (some time back in August) then it's way off (I have crunched more than shown). I'm starting to suspect that there will be no credit for anything crunched before Sep 29 (I was under the impression that it would be).
No, the data from the first test WUs (back in June!) until September 27s is not showing up yet, that would be for me an additional 5 years of runtime, which would be surely noticeable for me.

If this data is going to show up at some point, well, that is still a matter of contention.

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Re: Graphs and stats not updated

Good news, WCG starts are showing up again today. Waiting for them to backfill and correct missed data now.
Yeap, it's starting to show but unfortunately it's not accurate. It does seem to be a step in the right direction.
CJSL
In which way "not accurate"?
For now, it seems to add the stats from the internal stats run twice a day, from the current results.
The have not been any stats been added for the time from June to 9/27...

Ralf


Total credit isn't even right

WCG Points: 151,981,271
BOINC Credit: 21,711,653
Free-DC Credit: 24,306,572

I done 2,517,592 in the past month so no credit since IBM. It's being stored somewhere as Free-DC is getting credit updates.

I'd be in favor if the entire IBM setup scrapped and WCG use the standard BOINC server webpage/forum setup.
Anywhere else I can update a client and its at the top of computer list. But not WCG.
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Re: Graphs and stats not updated

Total credit isn't even right

WCG Points: 151,981,271
BOINC Credit: 21,711,653
Free-DC Credit: 24,306,572

I done 2,517,592 in the past month so no credit since IBM. It's being stored somewhere as Free-DC is getting credit updates.
Not quite understand what exactly you are trying to say.

For one, for ages, before the days of BOINC, WCG has internally it's own credit system, which means that WCG points are 7x BOINC points.
As for the differences between Free-DC and what you refer to as "BOINC Credit", no idea...
I'd be in favor if the entire IBM setup scrapped and WCG use the standard BOINC server webpage/forum setup.
Probably not that easy, as I am not aware of any other DC project that has sub project as WCG does.
Anywhere else I can update a client and its at the top of computer list. But not WCG.
Again, I don't understand what you are trying to say here...

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Re: Graphs and stats not updated

OK, so today's email from WCG pretty much explains all my doubts. If I understood correctly, they're going to try to credit (working backwards from Sep 29th) the WUs that were crunched during the transition and testing periods. Seems fair to me.

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Re: Graphs and stats not updated

I doubt that they "exported" to any site


Not so much exported, but made available, just as it says here:
https://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/XmlStats
That they obviously do, as sites like BOINCstats and Free-DC are picking up that data just perfectly fine ever since Krembil started their "testing" again...

Ralf

Both BOINCstats and FreeDC only update the totals, FreeDC also let you see your subproject scores, and nothing shows for MCM, OPN, ARP, SCC or Beta testing since February...
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Re: Graphs and stats not updated

I doubt that they "exported" to any site


Not so much exported, but made available, just as it says here:
https://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/XmlStats
That they obviously do, as sites like BOINCstats and Free-DC are picking up that data just perfectly fine ever since Krembil started their "testing" again...

Ralf

Both BOINCstats and FreeDC only update the totals, FreeDC also let you see your subproject scores, and nothing shows for MCM, OPN, ARP, SCC or Beta testing since February...
For one, no processing was done at all from end of February until some time in June, when the first few test WUs started to be released, followed by larger amounts of WUs since August.
Local project stats didn't get processed at all until early last week, and then also only for currently returned WUs, nothing retro-actively as of yet, as mentioned many times on the forum by now. So there isn't anything that Free-DC could have possibly picked up, though they should likely be able to pick up now the new daily per project stats. Though this seems to be now also out of whack again since the whole system took a dump starting on Friday....

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OK, so today's email from WCG pretty much explains all my doubts. If I understood correctly, they're going to try to credit (working backwards from Sep 29th) the WUs that were crunched during the transition and testing periods. Seems fair to me.

CJSL
Let's see what happens. For now, I am more concerned that they keep the system up and running in the first place and we don't have major download and/or website/forum issues on a weekly basis... sad

There have been a lot of promises been made in recent months, so for me seeing is believing...

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So there isn't anything that Free-DC could have possibly picked up, though they should likely be able to pick up now the new daily per project stats.Ralf

They are not, that's my point.
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So there isn't anything that Free-DC could have possibly picked up, though they should likely be able to pick up now the new daily per project stats.Ralf

They are not, that's my point.
Until WCG/Krembil are getting their "act" together, I don't think you can rely on any 3rd party doing what you expect them to do...

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