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Grumpy Swede
Master Cruncher Svíþjóð Joined: Apr 10, 2020 Post Count: 2068 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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And another batch of OPNG tasks just started flowing in. Also I noticed the post about ARP1 validator seems to have gone on vacation. It's not the only validator on vacation. I have several OPN1, OPNG, and MCM1 tasks that is waiting for the validator to come back to work. Newly finished _0 OPNG tasks with no wingman, isn't touched by the validator either.
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alanb1951
Veteran Cruncher Joined: Jan 20, 2006 Post Count: 858 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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The thread Grumpy Swede mentioned is presumably this one .
I can confirm that the "multiple Pending Validation items and nothing else" situation that has been troubling ARP1 for days now has just started to appear for MCM1 and OPN1 (I didn't get any of the latest batch of OPNG so have no first-hand experience...) There were no such problems with any results I returned before today, and only a small number of problem results so far today... Of course, it remains to be seen whether the units stay stuck in that state for several days, as has been the case for ARP1. And unless someone is turning validators off or severely restricting their run parameters, this is looking more and more like a transitioner issue... Cheers - Al. |
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nivrip
Senior Cruncher North Yorkshire Joined: Sep 13, 2007 Post Count: 262 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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No problems at all with validation of OPN, OPNG or MCM. I have opted out of ARP so can't comment.
----------------------------------------All seems to be almost there apart from Stats.
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Jim Slade
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In my overview, the last result returned is February 21, 2022.
I had mentioned that I was having a problem with getting a download. I finally got the downloads, but although I have some Valid results the latest result returned is listed as February 21, 2022. I understand there are problems with the transition to Toronto. |
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alanb1951
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Of course, it remains to be seen whether the units stay stuck in that state for several days, as has been the case for ARP1. And unless someone is turning validators off or severely restricting their run parameters, this is looking more and more like a transitioner issue... Answering my own point...It appears that the validation delay on my "stalled" MCM1 and OPN1 tasks was under 8 hours so that's nowhere near as bad as for ARP1... However, I still haven't seen an ARP1 task validate since early 26th August unless it happened to be first issued before about mid-day (UTC) on 25th August. It'll be interesting to see if these later units will start to disappear 6 days after they stalled, as that's likely to be how long the transitioner inactivity check period for these is likely to be... Cheers - Al. [Edit 1 times, last edit by alanb1951 at Sep 1, 2022 9:50:14 PM] |
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cz50975
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Here is example of OPNG_0155031_00149 with 2 replications where one is with status Pending Verification and another one Pending Validation.
No progress from 2022-09-01 19:03:03 UTC |
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erich56
Senior Cruncher Austria Joined: Feb 24, 2007 Post Count: 294 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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one is with status Pending Verification and another one Pending Validation. can anyone explain to me the difference between Verification and Validation, in technical terms? I have been wondering all time long ... |
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adriverhoef
Master Cruncher The Netherlands Joined: Apr 3, 2009 Post Count: 2070 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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However, I still haven't seen an ARP1 task validate since early 26th August unless it happened to be first issued before about mid-day (UTC) on 25th August. Al, I don't know if it counts.  Today arrived a Valid ARP1-result that was first issued 59 minutes after mid-day (UTC) on 25 August, I'd say:workunit 155113055 ARP1_0030963_128_0 Debian GNU/L Valid 2022-08-25T12:59:15 2022-08-30T14:41:05 18.72/20.15 1097.3/1097.3 The task on my computer was received because of a No Reply situation. And here's the news: it was validated on … "1662091484", that's in seconds since the Unix epoch, so: $ LC_TIME=en_NZ date -d@1662091484 -u EDIT: Two more coming in … workunit 155113814 ARP1_0029274_128_0 Linux Gentoo Error 2022-08-25T13:13:15 2022-09-02T10:47:03 0.00/0.00 467.3/0.0 workunit 155113607 ARP1_0033710_128_0 Linux Ubuntu Valid 2022-08-25T13:18:27 2022-08-28T10:32:17 19.40/40.69 1355.4/703.9 They validated on 1662114270 and on 1662115791, respectively, that's: $ LC_TIME=en_NZ date -d@1662114270 -u Still, the workunits with only two tasks, both Pending Validation, aren't moving. And I'm seeing only resends, I'm not seeing any new ARP1-tasks showing up. [Edit 1 times, last edit by adriverhoef at Sep 2, 2022 11:26:22 AM] |
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alanb1951
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Adri.
Mark (MJH333) noted another curiousity in the "Validator not running...or something else?" thread in the ARP forum. Looks like transitioner issues (as noted there), which would also explain why even retries for ARP1 are in short supply... As for why it seems to have less trouble freeing up WUs with non-success results than those with a simple quorum of successes, I suspect that's if there is a heavy load on the transitioner(s) that will be down to the transitioner self-defence mechanism (see that thread...) Cheers - Al. |
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adriverhoef
Master Cruncher The Netherlands Joined: Apr 3, 2009 Post Count: 2070 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Thanks for the clarification, Al.
----------------------------------------I've discovered one more 'type' of temporary workunit outcome, not seen before in this month  … beside single and double, there are now those with triple Pending Validation: From page 1/6 of all ARP1-tasks with status ’P’ on all of your devices: <4> ARP1_0019245_129_0 Linux Ubuntu Pending Validation 2022-08-25T16:38:09 2022-08-30T17:08:40 From page 6/6 of all ARP1-tasks with status ’P’ on all of your devices: <11> ARP1_0035577_128_0 Debian GNU/L Pending Validation 2022-08-25T13:52:37 2022-09-01T06:07:35 Adri [Edit 1 times, last edit by adriverhoef at Sep 2, 2022 3:08:05 PM] |
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