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KerSamson
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Re: Actual Cost of Electricity

Hi supdood,
a friend of mine installed a thermodynamic water heater in his condo (see https://www.dedietrich-heating.com/news2/thermodynamic_water_heater).
It is really efficient.
Since I have a solar water heater, I do not have the needs for it, otherwise I would put all my machines in a small room in the basement beside such a thermodynamic heater.
Cheers,
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Re: Actual Cost of Electricity

Electric Charges Usage units Rate
Basic service charge $8.00
Energy Charge - summer 2149 0.103010 $221.37
Fuel Cost Charge 2149 0.248180 $61.07
Decoupling Adj. 2149 0.003069 $6.60
Affordability Chg. $0.98
Resource Adj. $15.09
Total $313.11

My supplier is Xcel Energy. The figures also include two refrigerators, electric water heater, 20 cubic foot freezer and the well pump plus misc lights and TV.
Edit: Sorry, I can't get the figures to line up properly.
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Re: Actual Cost of Electricity

Adding 'code'-tags improves the lot a bit:
Electric Charges Usage units Rate
Basic service charge $8.00
Energy Charge - summer 2149 0.103010 $221.37
Fuel Cost Charge 2149 0.248180 $61.07
Decoupling Adj. 2149 0.003069 $6.60
Affordability Chg. $0.98
Resource Adj. $15.09
Total $313.11

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Re: Actual Cost of Electricity

@KerSampson Thanks for sharing that. I looked into getting a heat pump or hybrid water heater (as we call them in the US) but am waiting a few years in the hopes of installing a whole house heat pump system that will include indirect hot water heating. The GHG reduction incentive scheme in my state is also a bit skewed; there are no incentives for switching from gas to heat pump for hot water.

I'm curious if anyone has thought of integrating this into some cyclical living:
Solar PV electricity --> WCG computations --> waste heat collected by water heater --> grey water diverted to vegetable garden --> food scraps to compost --> compost as garden fertilizer.
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Thank you Adri. I learned something, so the next time I need to do this I can do it better.
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As they say in Dutch: 'Graag gedaan' (= You're welcome / My pleasure), Sgt.Joe.
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Re: Actual Cost of Electricity

Why not a pre heater tank in front of the water heater to dump system heat into?
I think that would compliment solar water heating by taking the "chill" out of the water before it goes to the solar heated system.
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Re: Actual Cost of Electricity

Hi gta198,
it is exactly what I am considering to implement.
Maybe with a switching:
1/ Summer: pre-heating with computer heat, final heating with solar
2/ Winter: pre-heating with solar, final heating with computer heat.
I do even consider to "recycle" the computer heat into the central heating system during winter time.
It shall be exactly calculated since the investment is not really cheap.
Cheers,
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Re: Actual Cost of Electricity

In the winter wind is more cost efficient than solar in most places. In summer which is best is a toss up depending where you live. A plus with wind is that you can use a water heater element as the shunt or dummy load when the batteries are fully charged.
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Re: Actual Cost of Electricity

A user posted about his costs of today and why he is stopping crunching.
https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewpostinthread?post=674165

Here is an update for where I am in Quebec Canada where all electricity is hydro.

The 1st 40 kWh: 0.06319 CAD --> 0.0481 EUR, 0.0487 USD, 0.0411 GBP
The rest kWh: 0.09749 CAD --> 0.7417 EUR, 0.0749 USD, 0.0630 GBP
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