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Former Member
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I probably jumped the gun on reporting 7.7% completed based on Entity reporting receiving a 014. Since then I have only seen 013's apart from a 012 re-send. Mike Jun 12 08:11:37 lima boinc[1894]: 12-Jun-2020 08:11:37 [World Community Grid] Starting task ARP1_0032825_014_0 |
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Mike.Gibson
Ace Cruncher England Joined: Aug 23, 2007 Post Count: 12594 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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The calculation requires as many 014's returned as prior iterations outstanding. With hindsight, there were a lot more prior iterations outstanding than 014's returned at that time. As yet, I haven't received one let alone returned it and now the queue has frozen. Mike |
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Former Member
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That makes sense but your methodology was never explained. I didn't suggest changing any calculation but only indicating that the 014s were arriving. None of these are coming in any sequential fashion anyway so all calculations are nebulous at best. What's going to happen if 015s start showing up when they restart the queue but 014s haven't been sent yet. Then they jump back to 014s. All depends on how they get indexed into the feeder.
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Mike.Gibson
Ace Cruncher England Joined: Aug 23, 2007 Post Count: 12594 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Arp is an iterative process. The first number is the 9 sq. Km. patch of Africa and the second number is the 2-day period starting from 1 July 2019. Each 2-day period cannot be released until the same patch has reported its previous period. However, because some WU's get crunched faster than others, some patches have got further ahead than other patches, especially when re-sends are needed. Up until now, the spread has been small, only about 2 iterations being issued at the same time, but now it seems to have grown to 3. I would have thought that they would want to keep the spread down by giving precedence to wu's from earlier iterations, but it seems not. Because they are crunching a whole year, which happens to be a leap year, there should be 183 iterations (000 - 182). So the calculation that I did was to divide 14 iterations (000-013) by 183 to get 7.7%. It has been explained before in this thread, but now that there are over 800 posts in this thread it needs repeating, especially as the spread of iterations is growing. It is a very different system from, say, opn. Mike |
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Robokapp
Senior Cruncher Joined: Feb 6, 2012 Post Count: 264 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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so...uh...did someone trip on the powercord and unplugged the sender? i seem to be going empty.
I know it's been stated before, just wondering what length of delay/pause we can expect or if it's just a little drought. |
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Mike.Gibson
Ace Cruncher England Joined: Aug 23, 2007 Post Count: 12594 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Last time it happened it was also at the weekend although this time it started on Thursday evening. The techs work remotely and have to spot it first and then hit/kick it in the right spot to restart it.
Mike |
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yoerik
Senior Cruncher Canada Joined: Mar 24, 2020 Post Count: 413 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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the various servers for BOINC projects always seem to break while the techs are sleeping.
----------------------------------------The servers seem to think it's a game lol ![]() |
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Former Member
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Each 2-day period cannot be released until the same patch has reported its previous period. I don't think that is correct. If so, ARP would run like FAH2. Which it doesn't. One could run any iteration of the period at anytime. All you need is current observations for a period previous to the forecast run. It wouldn't make any sense to use the output from a forecast run as input to the next run. Think about it. The forecasts aren't exact and can be wrong. They are predictions based on data and that data may not be correct or missing. Therefore, if an error is induced by a run it would be propagated to the next run. Current weather forecasts are based off current observational data that goes through a stringent quality analysis, not forecasted output. They already have the observational data from the period (The Weather Channel data) so any iteration could be run today if so desired. |
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Mike.Gibson
Ace Cruncher England Joined: Aug 23, 2007 Post Count: 12594 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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However, on this occasion, there was all of Friday.
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Former Member
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From 4000 * 2 to 6000 * 2 in the wild to 1,849 validated at halftime.
https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/stat/viewP...&numRecordsPerPage=30 I'm on the last one, no apologies, YCMTSU. |
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