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Former Member
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According to emails and messages to action from various contacts, WCG seems to need reapproval/reconfirmation to send for instance information mails to it's European EU resident contributors on or before May 25, 2018. Where is WCG on this and how is it going to treat members who've indicated 'international' as their location?
https://www.ibm.com/security/data-security/gd...0fPwNGEAAYASAAEgK5TvD_BwE https://www.ibm.com/data-responsibility/gdpr/...522625801&Matchtype=e |
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KerSamson
Master Cruncher Switzerland Joined: Jan 29, 2007 Post Count: 1670 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
Since GDPR applies to EU citizens, wherever they reside, I would recommend to ask for confirmation to every member, because WCG cannot know if somebody is a EU citizen or not.
----------------------------------------Additionally, it could be a good idea to refresh the Privacy Policy (https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/viewMemberPolicy.do) in order to integrate GDPR requirements. Cheers, Yves |
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TonyEllis
Senior Cruncher Australia Joined: Jul 9, 2008 Post Count: 254 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
Something needs clarifying here... The GDPR is a regulation that requires businesses to protect the personal data and privacy of EU citizens for transactions that occur within EU member states. I believe that WCG is hosted in the States - so how does that apply?
----------------------------------------Edit: The only email conformations and policy updates I have personally received are from organizations that host my data within the EU.
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gb009761
Master Cruncher Scotland Joined: Apr 6, 2005 Post Count: 2977 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
Here is the official EU GDPR website, and on the FAQ page, there's the following;
----------------------------------------Who does the GDPR affect? The GDPR not only applies to organisations located within the EU but it will also apply to organisations located outside of the EU if they offer goods or services to, or monitor the behaviour of, EU data subjects. It applies to all companies processing and holding the personal data of data subjects residing in the European Union, regardless of the company’s location. So, yes, WCG/IBM do need to act on this - as the next question on that page is the following; What are the penalties for non-compliance? Organizations can be fined up to 4% of annual global turnover for breaching GDPR or €20 Million. This is the maximum fine that can be imposed for the most serious infringements e.g.not having sufficient customer consent to process data or violating the core of Privacy by Design concepts. There is a tiered approach to fines e.g. a company can be fined 2% for not having their records in order (article 28), not notifying the supervising authority and data subject about a breach or not conducting impact assessment. It is important to note that these rules apply to both controllers and processors -- meaning 'clouds' will not be exempt from GDPR enforcement. In light of this, many countries around the world are revisiting their data privacy laws and updating them for the 21st century. [Edit 1 times, last edit by gb009761 at May 17, 2018 4:37:25 AM] |
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Former Member
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Another opportunity for expanding EU staff to watch over the watchers of protection of us
.... we're far beyond protection already - and what threatens us more than the EU and other powers in the first place? - sorry, but I cannot take it seriously |
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TonyEllis
Senior Cruncher Australia Joined: Jul 9, 2008 Post Count: 254 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
thanks gb009761..
----------------------------------------little mermaid wrote "sorry, but I cannot take it seriously"... Well here's a scenario, bit tongue in cheek, but... I actually run an organization called "grassmere-productions". One of the things it offers, amongst others, is a web-site providing a service (information regarding enhancing the use of ClearOS). The web-site provides an address to contact me. Now an EU resident could use that address to send me an email. I now have "data" on an EU resident - the nature of his content, his name, email address and the ip he used (found in the email header). If I process that data by matching his ip with a hit on my web-site I am now supposedly under the data processing provisions of the GDPR as well has holding data on an EU citizen. Since I do not have a presence in the EU, I must therefore appoint a representative in the EU. Fortunately not big enough an organization to also be required to appoint a DPO There are also certain records that must be maintained, regardless. Now if I fail to meet the GDPR provisions then the EU will seek to fine me. As I live in Australia, I am subject to Australian law, that will require the co-operation of the Australian authorities to send me for trial under the Australian Privacy Act. I also have dual citizenship (Aus and UK) - so i guess if I returned to the UK or visited another EU country they could arrest me there as an EU citizen - is the "Holy Roman Empire" arising from the ashes and yet again seeking to control the world I would be surprised if IBM WCG didn't already meet most, of not all, of the GDPR provisions. My understanding (and please correct me if I am wrong) is that re-confirmation is only required where a person subscribed under conditions such as a pre-checked box. (Some software installs are notorious for this - clicking "next" on a box that has some offer already checked). So, as long as IBM has the record of your original request, my understanding is that it is enough. I presume WCG would act on a request "to be forgotten". Would be nice if a WCG representative would respond to the OP's append...
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Former Member
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TonyEllis, I have to study your input in detail which I cannot do right nown
- at first glance it comes across as farcelike consequenses - and it seems we're making life more complicated for each other worldwide than necessary. Some bureaucracies love rules and regulations - and always did |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
I commend you for having the patience to study this.
----------------------------------------Being in business it's necessary to spend time on doing that ever so often. Your example just goes to show the madness of the minds of power hungry bureaucrats and their handlers - or the other way around. UK citizenship soon will not equal EU citizenship much longer - lucky you [Edit 2 times, last edit by Former Member at May 17, 2018 11:34:56 AM] |
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knreed
Former World Community Grid Tech Joined: Nov 8, 2004 Post Count: 4504 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
WCG is subject to the GDPR regulations. We will be rolling out a series of updates next week with the following:
1) The ability to delete your account. 2) The ability to not have your account shown on the stats pages or be exported in the BOINC stats exports 3) Limit access to member information via either the JSON/XML api's or via the BOINC stats exports only to those who have agreed to delete all information about our users who have deleted their information 4) Updated privacy policy There is a lot in the GDPR regulation and it is a game changer in how personal information is viewed and treated. As a software developer, the transition has had some major challenges but as an individual I really like where this is going with regards to individual privacy rights. |
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knreed
Former World Community Grid Tech Joined: Nov 8, 2004 Post Count: 4504 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
tI would be surprised if IBM WCG didn't already meet most, of not all, of the GDPR provisions. My understanding (and please correct me if I am wrong) is that re-confirmation is only required where a person subscribed under conditions such as a pre-checked box. (Some software installs are notorious for this - clicking "next" on a box that has some offer already checked). So, as long as IBM has the record of your original request, my understanding is that it is enough. I presume WCG would act on a request "to be forgotten" This is what we have been advised of as well. As a result, we will not be going through a process of re-obtaining consent. |
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