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FightAIDS@Home - Phase 2 AsyncRE work units started

Greetings everyone,

We are starting FightAIDS@Home - Phase 2 AsyncRE work units. These work units behave a little bit different than the previous FAH2 work units.

1. They are shorter in runtime ( 1.5 - 5 hours )
2. Trickle messaging and intermediate uploads will not happen.
3. Work units have a short deadline of 24 hours.
4. We are limiting results to 1 per core, similar to how beta runs.

The work units for FAH2 will have an additional backend component that we have been testing that'll help improve the results for the researchers before the subsequent work units are released. This is still the same children/grand children concept from before, so work units will appear to have the same numbering sequence to the members. One benefit of this is the overall CPU time used to compute the results for a given batch will be less.

To start off with the first early batches we will be doing some experimenting with both the size of the work units, as well as total number of steps required to complete a batch. The initial release will have 451 batches with 10k steps and 451 batches with 50k steps. With the results from these batches we hope to find an optimal setting going beyond these batches.

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Re: FightAIDS@Home - Phase 2 AsyncRE work units started

Thanks uplinger for info.

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Re: FightAIDS@Home - Phase 2 AsyncRE work units started

Since we only get 1 per core, can they be given priority in the feeder scheme?
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Re: FightAIDS@Home - Phase 2 AsyncRE work units started

The dirty trick is to set a MinB buffer greater than 12 hours and BOINC will go nuts on them in EDF. If you don't care what else is crunched, set FAH2 as main and the "If there is no work for..." Theoretically AsyncRE will always jump queue, up to a point when the other work deadlines become too tight.

Far as i know there's nothing really but the deadline value to compel a client to prioritize.

This presumes there won't be a supply chain shortage.
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Re: FightAIDS@Home - Phase 2 AsyncRE work units started

I just got 4 invalids in a row on these new WUs.
Is this something to be concerned about?
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Re: FightAIDS@Home - Phase 2 AsyncRE work units started

So far I have 5 invalids and 3 in progress.
None valid for wingmen yet.
I had no invalids during beta AFAIK.

Looks like there may be an issue.

Paul.

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Re: FightAIDS@Home - Phase 2 AsyncRE work units started

Oh dear, me too. Two invalid on Linux, 2 more in progress and 2 in progress on windoze.
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Re: FightAIDS@Home - Phase 2 AsyncRE work units started

The dirty trick is to set a MinB buffer greater than 12 hours and BOINC will go nuts on them in EDF. If you don't care what else is crunched, set FAH2 as main and the "If there is no work for..." Theoretically AsyncRE will always jump queue, up to a point when the other work deadlines become too tight.

Far as i know there's nothing really but the deadline value to compel a client to prioritize.

This presumes there won't be a supply chain shortage.

That's a good idea once they reach the client. My concern is I won't get very many as they will be overwhelmed by the other work. It would be nice if they sent FAH2 until <num_cores> reached and then fill in with other work. Once one finishes, the feeder should first try and send a FAH2 before looking for other eligible work.
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Re: FightAIDS@Home - Phase 2 AsyncRE work units started

All four on Linux went invalid. I still have two in progress on windoze. I've switched away from the project until we hear from the techs.
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Re: FightAIDS@Home - Phase 2 AsyncRE work units started

Tech here...The invalids are due to the wrong version being loaded when the results started. I had pushed version 7.18 but forgot to restart the feeder. So the feeder was still giving out work units for 7.14/15. This should be fixed going forward as 7.18 is the official release for this application.

The fix in 7.18 is that it will upload the proper rst and out file required for workunits that do not have trickle messages and intermediate uploads initiated.

I am sorry about this and at the moment only had 2 batches that were released, FAH2_001319 and FAH2_001320, both were 10k step workunits.

Thanks,
-Uplinger
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