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ericinboston
Senior Cruncher Joined: Jan 12, 2010 Post Count: 265 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Can anyone recommend a good/great video card I can toss in my new Lenovo M910T Tower (using Windows10)? It appears I have either a 180w or 250w or 400w power supply...and it seems the 400w supply is only on special orders which mine was not.
----------------------------------------I saw a video on youtube that is 5+ years old showing 2 AMD HD 7970 cards. I can only assume that after 5+ years, I can get the same/better performance from a card 1/2 the price and hopefully using less power. Can anyone recommend a card for my tower? I'd spend up to $400. I crunch only the Cancer projects on WCG. Thanks! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDQ9xbng_Iw  [Edit 1 times, last edit by ericinboston at Oct 30, 2017 7:56:58 PM] |
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wolfman1360
Senior Cruncher Canada Joined: Jan 17, 2016 Post Count: 176 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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If you're using this as only a cruncher on WCG, none of these projects use GPU's yet.
----------------------------------------I'm not really sure at power ratings at the moment. Pretty sure you need at least 300w power supply for the very basic modern cards (1050, 1050Ti, etc). You could look at the gtx 730, though I'm not sure that would be much faster than the Intel Hd graphics these days. PS: ...The price of modern cards is insane. $400 plus for a GTX 1060 is amazingly high, even in Canada. Is there any reason for this?
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SekeRob
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Demand outpaces supply or something to that extend I read a little while ago. Google says: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ethereum-eff...cs-card-prices,34928.html
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ericinboston
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If you're using this as only a cruncher on WCG, none of these projects use GPU's yet. Wow...none of WCG uses CPUs which is insane. I know code needs to be (re)written but out of the 10s of billions of pcs out there, BOINC/WCG/whoever can't be bothered to consider using anything other than the Intel/AMD architecture. I think some Android phones do BOINC. There are also hundreds of millions of iPhones and iPads (700 million iPhones and 300 million iPads) plus all the other non-Apple manufactured tablets and phones. I don't know why nobody is porting these projects to a different code base. Who cares if my iPhone 6 runs 3x slower than my i7 chip?...it's still hundreds of millions of possible volunteers compared to the 600,000 volunteers we have now. Even if BOINC attracted a mere 2 million new users out of 1 billion, that's almost 4x the volunteers we have now. Those folks may also install on multiple devices and/or pcs once they check out the cool, free BOINC app that runs on their iPhone. I'm sure this topic has been talked to death elsewhere on this Forum and I recall asking about this topic 5+ years ago. It's very sad that BOINC/WCG is bolted to personal computers. |
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KLiK
Master Cruncher Croatia Joined: Nov 13, 2006 Post Count: 3108 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Can anyone recommend a good/great video card I can toss in my new Lenovo M910T Tower (using Windows10)? It appears I have either a 180w or 250w or 400w power supply...and it seems the 400w supply is only on special orders which mine was not. I saw a video on youtube that is 5+ years old showing 2 AMD HD 7970 cards. I can only assume that after 5+ years, I can get the same/better performance from a card 1/2 the price and hopefully using less power. Can anyone recommend a card for my tower? I'd spend up to $400. I crunch only the Cancer projects on WCG. Thanks! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDQ9xbng_Iw 1st thing you do is check the wattage you got...then we can talk more...here's the link with all serial numbers. SO, which one you got?  |
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KLiK
Master Cruncher Croatia Joined: Nov 13, 2006 Post Count: 3108 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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If you're using this as only a cruncher on WCG, none of these projects use GPU's yet. I'm not really sure at power ratings at the moment. Pretty sure you need at least 300w power supply for the very basic modern cards (1050, 1050Ti, etc). You could look at the gtx 730, though I'm not sure that would be much faster than the Intel Hd graphics these days. PS: ...The price of modern cards is insane. $400 plus for a GTX 1060 is amazingly high, even in Canada. Is there any reason for this? That about 1050 is not correct...as the card itself uses 75W! QUite a good power for 2TFlops & around $200. But he can also use 1030, which is 35W & around $80 now. ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by KLiK at Oct 31, 2017 5:18:00 PM] |
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ericinboston
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1st thing you do is check the wattage you got...then we can talk more...here's the link with all serial numbers. SO, which one you got? Hi and thanks for the help. I don't think you included a link with serial numbers. I have the 250watt power supply. The TDP of an i7-7700T chip (what I have) is 35watts. I would imagine that at worst it jumps up to 70watts...leaving about 180watts left for the motherboard, M.2 drive, SSD, and cd rom (rarely used), and whatever else. My guess is that out of 250watts, the total system is using at most 100watts even with the cd rom going. EDIT: I do have a kill-a-watt thingy...I plugged my Tower into it and after 10 minutes the most it has used is 97watts (even watching a youtube video at 1080) while WCG was running at 100%...and using only 20watts when WCG was off entirely. I could assume that maybe the entire system hits 110watts max if I were to start ripping a cd and banging the hard drives at the same time. So the CPU itself seems to be consuming about 80watts at full load. My guess would be that I cold find a decent video card using at most 50watts that contributes to WCG. That 2012 video clip posted was crunching WUs at a rate of 1 WU every 100 seconds per core which is far, far faster than my i7-7700T crunching at 1 WU every 3-4 hours (10,800 seconds - 14,400 seconds). That card is now 5+ years old but I would imagine (hope) that there is some video card nowadays that could crunch close to that GPU while being cheaper and maybe less power. Heck, if I can find a GPU that crunches 1 WU every 5 minutes that's still a far cry from 1 WU every 3-4 hours. I could even shut off CPU computing which would save me 80watts. So if my 250w system is only using 20watts with no CPU usage, I could buy a video card that eats ~100watts and never have a problem...I tried fiddling with BOINC cpu utilization and the wattage still spikes up to 90watts so I would just leave the CPU entirely off for BOINC (I hope that is possible) and let the GPU go at 100%. Thanks again! Thanks! [Edit 3 times, last edit by ericinboston at Oct 31, 2017 6:45:35 PM] |
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ericinboston
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When you folks say the gtx 1030 and 1050 and 1060, I am assuming you mean the Gigabyte Geforce GTX 10XX models right? For example, the 1050 at Amazon is $119 US:
----------------------------------------https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MG0733A/ref=psdc_284822_t3_B071DY2VJR It has 650 CUDA cores. Does each core get a WU and thus there are 650 WUs crunching at once? I don't think that's the answer but I thought I would ask...I couldn't find anything on Google about CUDA and BOINC to answer my question. Thanks again. |
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wolfman1360
Senior Cruncher Canada Joined: Jan 17, 2016 Post Count: 176 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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When you folks say the gtx 1030 and 1050 and 1060, I am assuming you mean the Gigabyte Geforce GTX 10XX models right? For example, the 1050 at Amazon is $119 US: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MG0733A/ref=psdc_284822_t3_B071DY2VJR It has 650 CUDA cores. Does each core get a WU and thus there are 650 WUs crunching at once? I don't think that's the answer but I thought I would ask...I couldn't find anything on Google about CUDA and BOINC to answer my question. Thanks again. Hi, Again, there are currently no WCG projects that crunch using graphics cards. I'm not sure when one will be introduced again. To answer your question, though, other boinc projects crunch 1 WU per GPU.
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KLiK
Master Cruncher Croatia Joined: Nov 13, 2006 Post Count: 3108 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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1st thing you do is check the wattage you got...then we can talk more...here's the link with all serial numbers. SO, which one you got? Hi and thanks for the help. I don't think you included a link with serial numbers. I have the 250watt power supply. The TDP of an i7-7700T chip (what I have) is 35watts. I would imagine that at worst it jumps up to 70watts...leaving about 180watts left for the motherboard, M.2 drive, SSD, and cd rom (rarely used), and whatever else. My guess is that out of 250watts, the total system is using at most 100watts even with the cd rom going. EDIT: I do have a kill-a-watt thingy...I plugged my Tower into it and after 10 minutes the most it has used is 97watts (even watching a youtube video at 1080) while WCG was running at 100%...and using only 20watts when WCG was off entirely. I could assume that maybe the entire system hits 110watts max if I were to start ripping a cd and banging the hard drives at the same time. So the CPU itself seems to be consuming about 80watts at full load. My guess would be that I cold find a decent video card using at most 50watts that contributes to WCG. That 2012 video clip posted was crunching WUs at a rate of 1 WU every 100 seconds per core which is far, far faster than my i7-7700T crunching at 1 WU every 3-4 hours (10,800 seconds - 14,400 seconds). That card is now 5+ years old but I would imagine (hope) that there is some video card nowadays that could crunch close to that GPU while being cheaper and maybe less power. Heck, if I can find a GPU that crunches 1 WU every 5 minutes that's still a far cry from 1 WU every 3-4 hours. I could even shut off CPU computing which would save me 80watts. So if my 250w system is only using 20watts with no CPU usage, I could buy a video card that eats ~100watts and never have a problem...I tried fiddling with BOINC cpu utilization and the wattage still spikes up to 90watts so I would just leave the CPU entirely off for BOINC (I hope that is possible) and let the GPU go at 100%. Thanks again! Thanks! Go with the 1050Ti...it's half of your budget (around $200 in Croatia), so you'll have plenty to spare! Also it's only 75W, so doesn't need any extra power in adapters - which you probably don't have in system. I have it in one system & works great. Playing Andromeda from time to time on that sys. Also, take je 4GB version at least. So you can participate with the GPUgrid projects, crunch Bitcoins or similar coins (4GB is minimum for those). But also can join in SETi@home or Einstein which need from 512MB & above.  |
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