Index  | Recent Threads  | Unanswered Threads  | Who's Active  | Guidelines  | Search
 
World Community Grid Forums
  Category: Completed Research
  Forum: Microbiome Immunity Project
  Thread: sigificant credit drop - only for me or did someone else see this?

Quick Go »
No member browsing this thread
Thread Status: Active
Total posts in this thread: 117
Posts: 117   Pages: 12   [ Previous Page | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 | Next Page ]
[ Jump to Last Post ]
Post new Thread
Author
Previous Thread This topic has been viewed 497560 times and has 116 replies Next Thread
RTS48
Veteran Cruncher
Bolivia
Joined: Aug 2, 2009
Post Count: 1353
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: sigificant credit drop - only for me or did someone else see this?
Points still dropping; pulled the plug on MBI for now; moving on to seek greener pastures.


Me too!
----------------------------------------
Rod Peel
Santa Cruz
Bolivia
South America

,
,
[Oct 25, 2017 12:17:34 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
mmonnin
Advanced Cruncher
Joined: Jul 20, 2016
Post Count: 148
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: sigificant credit drop - only for me or did someone else see this?
Of couse, Bitcoin was worth about 1-3 cents in May of 2010; today the exchange price closed at $5840.01

Hmmmmmm smile About getting rich part......12 coins per day time $5000..... confused


I'm assuming the user meant 12 gridcoins not 12 bitcoins.
12 times whatever the conversion rate between the two coins.
----------------------------------------
[Oct 25, 2017 2:18:17 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
RTS48
Veteran Cruncher
Bolivia
Joined: Aug 2, 2009
Post Count: 1353
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: sigificant credit drop - only for me or did someone else see this?
I shut dow (and aborted) all of my MIP WUs that were ready to run. I have now gone back to SCC 100% so hopefully my points will recover and I'll get my 10 year Diamond in about a month. I'll then see what MIP is doing and perhaps restart.
----------------------------------------
Rod Peel
Santa Cruz
Bolivia
South America

,
,
[Oct 26, 2017 1:42:18 AM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
B2I
Senior Cruncher
usa
Joined: Jan 23, 2011
Post Count: 232
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: sigificant credit drop - only for me or did someone else see this?
Regarding bitcoin:
sorry for the ambiguous post.

in 2010 bitcoin was worth only a few pennys. In fact the first transaction ever made with bitcoin was a trade of 10000 coins for two pizzas. that put it a far less than a penny. today it closed at $5700 https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/bitcoin

So if gridcoin were to do the same, I'd be making $68,000 dollars per day. So, MBI could be costing me $25000 per day with this slump.

all seriousness aside laughing crying tongue
----------------------------------------
[Oct 26, 2017 3:49:20 AM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
B2I
Senior Cruncher
usa
Joined: Jan 23, 2011
Post Count: 232
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: sigificant credit drop - only for me or did someone else see this?
I"m actually trying a couple of non WCG projects while I monitor what's going on with MBI. But, I'm sure I'll be back.

Mining gridcoin is quite an interesting game. Gridcoin whitelists, by popular vote of all active miners, what boinc projects that will garner credit. each whitelistes project gets the same amount of coin. your pay off is based on how your RAC compares to other miners in that project. to win this game, you must find a project with the fewest number of active miners in which your RAC is high. If you try to mine a project where gpus are dominant and you only run cpus you'll get very little. But If you pick a project that is so small that they run out of work units, you'll also get little. If you swap projects to often, you'll never build up enough RAC to make a payday. Quit the game. But i'm sure I'l tire of it in a couple of months. Unless, of course, grindcoin skyrockets...........
----------------------------------------
[Oct 26, 2017 4:03:58 AM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
SekeRob
Master Cruncher
Joined: Jan 7, 2013
Post Count: 2741
Status: Offline
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: sigificant credit drop - only for me or did someone else see this?
Complaining against the credit system without considering the proved inadequate science performance is for me similar to the ostrich putting its head into the sand.
Cheers,
Yves

To me you've 'proved' there's a problem with your machine(s) innards. My 'prove' is the opposite, running SCC1/MIP1 in 4-4 app_config setup. Below the nightly harvest off the 4770K on W10 Fall-Creationist, where the MIP1 are doing significant better in cr/hr than SCC1. They did 28/hr cobblestones few days ago, but SCC1 did 20-21.
Name	                        AppNm	Status	Time	        Elapsed	Granted	Crd/Hr	Efficiency
SCC1_0001160_Bct-E_41451_0	scc1	Valid	0:02:52:35	2.9629	48.53	16.87	97.08%
SCC1_0001160_Bct-E_4941_0	scc1	Valid	0:03:33:58	3.6789	59.62	16.72	96.94%
SCC1_0001160_Bct-E_41468_0	scc1	Valid	0:02:47:55	2.8808	50.07	17.89	97.14%
SCC1_0001160_Bct-E_4967_0	scc1	Valid	0:03:12:35	3.3053	56.79	17.69	97.10%
SCC1_0001160_Bct-E_4928_0	scc1	Valid	0:03:22:19	3.4721	58.33	17.30	97.11%
SCC1_0001160_Bct-E_4947_0	scc1	Valid	0:03:13:25	3.3338	59.50	18.46	96.70%
SCC1_0001160_Bct-E_4942_0	scc1	Valid	0:02:41:57	2.8155	51.11	18.93	95.87%
SCC1_0001160_Bct-E_5115_0	scc1	Valid	0:02:52:52	2.9739	46.99	16.31	96.88%
MIP1_00004688_4567_0	        mip1	Valid	0:02:34:36	2.6557	66.31	25.74	97.03%
MIP1_00004688_4548_0	        mip1	Valid	0:02:39:32	2.7413	63.93	24.04	96.99%
MIP1_00004688_4547_0	        mip1	Valid	0:02:33:17	2.6758	68.79	26.93	95.47%
MIP1_00004688_4439_0	        mip1	Valid	0:02:37:04	2.7024	63.14	24.12	96.87%
MIP1_00004694_0439_0	        mip1	Valid	0:03:22:06	3.4752	81.85	24.30	96.93%
MIP1_00004694_0450_0	        mip1	Valid	0:03:27:51	3.5721	90.41	26.10	96.98%
SCC1_0001340_Bct-E_24979_1	scc1	Valid	0:03:12:04	3.4023	54.68	17.08	94.09%
MIP1_00003464_0512_1	        mip1	Valid	0:03:00:54	3.1375	75.20	24.94	96.10%
MIP1_00003464_0503_1	        mip1	Valid	0:02:57:33	3.0485	76.08	25.71	97.07%
[Oct 26, 2017 7:31:00 AM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
KerSamson
Master Cruncher
Switzerland
Joined: Jan 29, 2007
Post Count: 1684
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: sigificant credit drop - only for me or did someone else see this?
Great for you SekeRob.
Nevertheless there is a problem with MIP1 and now several people report it.
Only if we try to understand what it is really occurring, we can provide solution.
Maybe your hosts are more recent than mine and your CPU can operate some parts of the science natively, without running more exhausting command emulation?
If we are not able / willing to analyse accurately the situation, a lot of people will waste the CPU time and their electricity bill for a poor performing project.
At the other side, if the conclusion is that some CPU respectively OS do not have sufficient affinity with MIP1, the members can select other sciences.
Such an approach would improve the contribution efficiency.
Cheers,
Yves
----------------------------------------

Décrypthon team progress - KerSamson's contribution
[Oct 26, 2017 10:26:18 AM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
JEklund2
Advanced Cruncher
Finland
Joined: Aug 10, 2006
Post Count: 119
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: sigificant credit drop - only for me or did someone else see this?
Complaining against the credit system without considering the proved inadequate science performance is for me similar to the ostrich putting its head into the sand.
Cheers,
Yves

To me you've 'proved' there's a problem with your machine(s) innards. My 'prove' is the opposite, running SCC1/MIP1 in 4-4 app_config setup. Below the nightly harvest off the 4770K on W10 Fall-Creationist, where the MIP1 are doing significant better in cr/hr than SCC1. They did 28/hr cobblestones few days ago, but SCC1 did 20-21.
Name	                        AppNm	Status	Time	        Elapsed	Granted	Crd/Hr	Efficiency
SCC1_0001160_Bct-E_41451_0	scc1	Valid	0:02:52:35	2.9629	48.53	16.87	97.08%
SCC1_0001160_Bct-E_4941_0	scc1	Valid	0:03:33:58	3.6789	59.62	16.72	96.94%
SCC1_0001160_Bct-E_41468_0	scc1	Valid	0:02:47:55	2.8808	50.07	17.89	97.14%
SCC1_0001160_Bct-E_4967_0	scc1	Valid	0:03:12:35	3.3053	56.79	17.69	97.10%
SCC1_0001160_Bct-E_4928_0	scc1	Valid	0:03:22:19	3.4721	58.33	17.30	97.11%
SCC1_0001160_Bct-E_4947_0	scc1	Valid	0:03:13:25	3.3338	59.50	18.46	96.70%
SCC1_0001160_Bct-E_4942_0	scc1	Valid	0:02:41:57	2.8155	51.11	18.93	95.87%
SCC1_0001160_Bct-E_5115_0	scc1	Valid	0:02:52:52	2.9739	46.99	16.31	96.88%
MIP1_00004688_4567_0	        mip1	Valid	0:02:34:36	2.6557	66.31	25.74	97.03%
MIP1_00004688_4548_0	        mip1	Valid	0:02:39:32	2.7413	63.93	24.04	96.99%
MIP1_00004688_4547_0	        mip1	Valid	0:02:33:17	2.6758	68.79	26.93	95.47%
MIP1_00004688_4439_0	        mip1	Valid	0:02:37:04	2.7024	63.14	24.12	96.87%
MIP1_00004694_0439_0	        mip1	Valid	0:03:22:06	3.4752	81.85	24.30	96.93%
MIP1_00004694_0450_0	        mip1	Valid	0:03:27:51	3.5721	90.41	26.10	96.98%
SCC1_0001340_Bct-E_24979_1	scc1	Valid	0:03:12:04	3.4023	54.68	17.08	94.09%
MIP1_00003464_0512_1	        mip1	Valid	0:03:00:54	3.1375	75.20	24.94	96.10%
MIP1_00003464_0503_1	        mip1	Valid	0:02:57:33	3.0485	76.08	25.71	97.07%


.. related to this I have ( simple?) question: How do You collect the info, which is the preferred way to able to do this kind of comparisons .. I would like to be able to collect same kind of info from my Windows and Linux PC so to see which is the most usable platform for different kind of projects ..
----------------------------------------
[Oct 26, 2017 12:51:39 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
SekeRob
Master Cruncher
Joined: Jan 7, 2013
Post Count: 2741
Status: Offline
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: sigificant credit drop - only for me or did someone else see this?
Visit Help > API (search term), and you get a bunch of non-technical data, per result. This I've coupled to a master table of device technical data (OS/CPU/Threads/Benchmarks etc), to then output stuff like in my signature.
[Oct 26, 2017 2:07:48 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
armstrdj
Former World Community Grid Tech
Joined: Oct 21, 2004
Post Count: 695
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: sigificant credit drop - only for me or did someone else see this?
We are working with the researchers and the application developers to identify the issue. If anyone would like to limit the number of concurrent runs that MIP1 can use there is a method in BOINC to limit this. For example to limit MIP1 to two concurrent tasks you would need to create the file app_config.xml in the World Community Grid project directory. The WCG project directory is in the BOINC data directory under projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org. This is an example of the contents:
<app_config>
<app>
<name>mip1</name>
<max_concurrent>2</max_concurrent>
</app>
</app_config>

For more details here is the BOINC documentation. https://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/ClientAppConfig
Thanks,
armstrdj
[Oct 27, 2017 9:58:00 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
Posts: 117   Pages: 12   [ Previous Page | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 | Next Page ]
[ Jump to Last Post ]
Post new Thread